where cant i find info on stock vs. stock ITR vs. WRX info. just want that thanx

 

Keep doing research.

This forum isn't for bench racing, sorry.

 

ITR equals all top end, WRX is all mid range power...WRX launches like a bat outta hell. In the 1/4 both cars are very close, depends on driver. On a road course ITR owns WRX...WRX is off road rally monster.. two different types of cars completely. There is your info.

 

quick and to the point

 

There are no published tests comparing the two. You'll have to do research and average the numbers from reliable sources. From all that I've seen, the WRX is faster straitline, but I would guess that the ITR will be faster on the autocross or roadcourse.

 

Subaru Impreza WRX (2002) 227HP 217Torque@4000 3085lbs (1/4mile)14.7 @ 93 (0-60)5.8

 

are you serious??? there have been tons of tests published comparisons!

bottom line: WRX owns straight line acceleration (obviously) but ITR is still more fun to drive and a better track car. The WRX isnt much of an autocrosser or road racer cuz the rear end tend to get a lil loose and according to SCC, the WRX is more suited for drifting the track than for maintaining a good line. This doesnt mean the WRX is a bad handler, its just not suited for that style driving... they did mention that the WRX shines in the canyons... FYI, 14.7 is Motor Trend's time for the Wagon... which is even bad for the wagon. Typically, they will run low 14's stock with an average driver.

 

basically if your in an ITR and you come across a wrx on the highway you have nothing to worry about. If you come across one at a light you can bet he will be dustin your *** off the line, the longer the race the better for the itr.

 

So the 1/4 mile is the same, but 0-60 is much better...
Reminds me of the last mustang I raced. I would of had him if he didnt shut it down after 2nd gear.





[Modified by jond, 11:02 PM 8/1/2002]

 

Has anyone here driven each car back to back?

I have, and at an Autocross. Guess what? This may be sacrilege on the Subie sites but, There is NO friggen comparison! I was totally dissapointed and unimpressed. As others say, they are two vastly different handeling cars and power alone Does NOT explain enough about the WRX Vs. the ITR.

1/4 mile is one comparison but, it is NOT what shows ANYTHING about the 2 cars.

You want a rally car that can run hard over ruts and bumps and on dirt roads at 90+ miles an hour or be a lifesaver in the snow? Then get a REX.

You want a true track car, nothing pseudo, Then Get an ITR.

They are on 2 different planes.

Good luck,

A.

PS Oh, and like Reid said, we don't race over the net or in magazines here.

PPS try SCC

 

maybe... as long as the wrx is stock. keep in mind its been heavily DETUNED for the US market. (3 catalytic converters, highly restrictive muffler, restrictive intake, detuned ecu for lower boost) a few simple bolt ons and the WRX will blow away the ITR in every facet of acceleration.
for this reason, the WRX and ITR are not even in the same class, so they shouldnt be compared. (yet they are)

 

exactly!

i figure that if the WRX is good enough for snow and running hard over ruts and bumps, it'll own for daily driving. (and flying over the incredible amount of speed bumps in my neighborhood which has claimed my DC header and various exhausts)

 

Oh really, I havent come across any mags which have compared the 2 head to head.

But I agree, magazine racing is irrelevent, but when talking about one car vs another one, I would trust a mag more than I would a person on a car forum. Obviously the best thing to do is go drive both yourself.

 

Road racing that is.
In a autocross, the torque and all wheel drive will likely bring the wrx up to a level playing field.

 

Nope.

Even my friend that has said REX after swapping cars for a run and just got out of my car said "Whoa, That is an experience, it's like the R was made for this." Duh! It was. Although Autocross and true Road racing are also vastly different, you can certainly get a good feeling of a cars limits and just how you can or should push it to make it perform. the WRX feels Heavy and like it takes too much effort to make it do what you want. The ITR on the other hand feels light and nimble and "Just Right!" And, although Road racing works differently, if we are just talking about handeling at speed, We hat a good launch into a slalom and were hitting 65 to 70 MPH in the back straights before a tight gate that forced you to slow up and downshift to enter the box before the finish line.

Haven't hit a full road course yet. We will in November and again I will swap cars with him so I have even more experience from which to draw upon.

My run in a Maita was a completely different experience. Permagrin, just like the First time I drove an R. FR is Fun as Hell and the Miata is just a blast.

A.

 

1GreyTeg:
you obviously know what you are talking about instead of talking outta your ***.
and yes... if you think miata on the track = permagrin, try a TURBO miata!

 

I have a motorweek video of a 5 speed 2002 wrx sedan. 0-60 was in 5.6 seconds
and the 1/4mile in 14.3 seconds.

 

Thanks csufweed,

You too seem to know which end is up and whats goin on.
And to think that we had some stupid disagreement way back when, and I may have even been an instigating *****. Anyway, We see eye to eye now on a few things. Enough with the warm fuzzies, burn them down...

Anyways, I was so impressed and thrilled with the Miata that I am planning on getting one next year as yet Another car to add to the stable. Damn Dave, why did you let me drive that ragtop?

A.

 

ITR = track bitch

WRX = fast grocery-getter all year round

 

WRX's are supposed to run low 14's, like 14 flat or 14.1, under ideal conditions. The one I saw tonight was running 14.5, but then again, it was 94 and humid today. Track temp was 130!

 

The 2 WRX's I hang around are a sedan and a wagon. Sedan has a $14 boost controller and runs 14.2's in 90 degree weather and the Wagon runs 13.8's in 90 degrees and has the same $14 boot controller, an up-pipe and a cheap axle back exhaust.

They own in a straight line. Making them fast in the auto-x will be easy, swaybars, shocks, springs and nice tires with gobs of torque.

THey weight too much to carry high speed on a road course IMO.

Biggest downfall of a stock WRX? TIRES!

 

bahaha you moron

 

um...ok.

I have lined up with a WRX at a light, and driven one. They are faster straight-line cars.

 

I honestly believe that the ITR is the faster car (even in a straight line), but if racing from a standstill, it will get owned by the WRX. In most cases, the WRX will be faster in the 1/4 mile, even though it <u>isn't</u> the faster car. You can't beat the AWD launch...

 

Only from a stop.

I had no trouble at all passing one on the front straight at Buttonwillow.