I've got a 91 CRX that I'm swapping a 97 GSR cluster into. I'm running a D15/Y8 mini-me with a 91 CRX Si hybrid tranny, so I'm down to swapping my cable driven vss to an electric vss but I need help identifying the one I've got.


I bought the electic vss off ebay and didn't realize that I needed to make sure that it was from a manual car. The auction didn't say which car it was out of, just that it worked which I've already verified that it does. So I'm looking at my vss and comparing them and notice they are the same length overall (inside the tranny), but the gears are little off. Does anybody know if this is okay or if this vss is from an automatic and so I'll have to buy another one? Thanks for the help! Hoping to wire this up today.

 

i think that one is from an eg

the black one in this picture is from an integra as far as i know, works perfect and its nice and tiny, not like that big bastard you have there.

 

I figured it was from a civic, an eg sounds about right. But back to my question; will this 'big bastard' work in my 91 Si tranny?
Thanks again for the help!

 

no unfortunately it will not.

 

it should work, only one way to find out for sure right?

the only way i could see it not working is if there is something in that area (rear motor mount) that will prevent that large base from fitting.

if it goes in the hole, chances are it will work just fine

 

yea whatever you do, do NOT just throw it in there. the gear on the end sits way to low compared to the stock one, its not the right vss. if you jam it in there and you get it bolted down somehow, your going to quite likely destroy both the vss and the gear inside the tranny. the 2 gears will end up only partially engaged, and as soon as you start moving there's going to potentially be some major damage taking place. i've already read about one guy doing this and he ended up shredding both gears and filling his trans with metal shavings.

 

Again thanks for the replies.
D16SiHatch: The two gears (the small one on the vss and the large one on the diff.) are both plastic so I don't think the guy you read about got metal shavings because of those two not lining up right. But do you know if the vss I have is from an automatic car maybe? I've heard those don't work, yet I'm not sure if the bolt holes just don't line up or if the gears are in different places which is what I'm looking at. If you know or can ask someone that would be great!

Turbo Dan: The issue I'm having isn't the mounting bolt holes lining up, or a clearance issue outside of the tranny. The question I have is the difference in placement of the gears that are inside of the tranny. If you look in my pics you can see the gear from the electronic vss is slightly lower than the one on my stock cable vss. That's my problem, thanks for the help though.

I have a spare tranny case, but don't have I diff (at least I don't think I do). So I guess I'll just crack my spare open and see if I have a clearence issue inside the case. Maybe that'll help.

More help would be great! Does anybody know what this electronic vss is and if it'll work for my swap?

 

i think the issue may be that the vss is from an auto. i never had a chance to figure out what vss i'd need for my cluster swap for the d-series trans because by the time i decided to do the cluster swap i already had the b18 in there. i had to use a 92-95 civic speedo sensor from a manual trans car. i'm wondering if the same vss i have would work in your trans. i imagine it might but i cant say for sure.

 

yeah, that's what I think I'm dealing with. I've never seen a vss from either a manual or an auto (electric that is) so I don't know which one mine is. By seeing the difference in gears I think that I do have the auto one and so, unfortunately it won't work. But I'll see if I can pop it in my spare tranny and see what's up. I have been told any vss from either a b series or a d series MANUAL only will work from 92-2000, so I'm sure the one you've got would be the one I need as well. I just don't know if the one I have is actually a manual or if it is in fact an auto vss. I was hopin someone would be able to see it and say 'yup you've got a manual vss, will work flawlessly', but no such luck yet.
Thanks for the help! I'll figure this out and post up pics when I've found something.

 

sounds like a plan

 

the one u got off ebay looks like a integra from 94 integra or a 92-93 civic one thing i noticed about thoes types is that it can still use the cable as well as the digital only need to make an adapter but the one u got kida looks like the auto one tho

PS u do know that if u take apart ur analog speedo there is a wire to ur ecu thats labled vss u just tap that and just hide the speedo part of ur cluster behind ur dash and ur good to go tape the vss wire and wire it to ur gsr cluster and ur good to go

 

if u have a SOHC tranny u need a DOHC vss and if u have a DOHC tranny u need a SOHC vss!!!! ur welcome

 

why the hell would that work?

 

cuz thats how they work

 

so basically if I had a 91 integra (dohc) then I would need a say 92 civic (sohc) vss to swap to electronic speedo, and since I have a 91 civic (sohc d15) then I need an electronic vss from any dohc b series? Seems weird to me. got one for me?

 

well i had to use a 92-95 civic speed sensor in my 93 b-series trans, so it seems plausible that the d-series trans might work with a b-series electric vss. i dunno for sure but pedro seems to know so we'll go with what he says for the time being lol.

 

So I think I have atleast figured out that this vss I have simply won't work because of clearence issues outside of the tranny. The mounting portion of the vss hits part of the case before it is fully seated in the case. Also the bolt hole for mounting the vss to the tranny doesn't line up. It's about 3/16" off, so I'm up a creek in that respect too.
I'm gunna look for an integra vss (like GSRPedro suggested) and I'll see what happens.

I guess these style vss's won't work in the ef trannies. If anyone has a b series vss for sale (electronic of course) let me know, I'm in the market for one. Thanks for the help guys.

Here's a couple pics showing the points where it hits and the bolt hole misalignment.


This is a last comparison between my stock cable driven vss and the (I'm guessing) 92-95 electronic vss.

 

http://www.tuner-junction.com/TJForu...88-91-crx.html

this site says you can use any 92+ civic or 94+ integra vss. and as you can see he had to modify his to fit.

http://hondacrx881.tripod.com/gsrclusterswap.html

motivation? lol


and this site says you need a 92+ civic vss. doesn't specify if it must be from a manual or auto trans however. he ended up using the bottom portion from the 92 civic and the top portion is from a 99 integra.



So by the looks of it theres more than one way to do this..

 

yup I'm sure there is, but unfortunately for me I bought the one that doesn't work as you can see in my pics.

Thanks a lot for the links, they were a great help.
Basically I guess I could use this vss, but I would have to modify it quite a bit and I like things to be done right. So I'm going to look for a 96-00 civic vss which is supposedly less bulky and should drop in without modification. I'll let you guys know what I find. I'll look into a 94+ integra vss as well.

 

Hi, got the same problem!

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/vss-swap-into-l3-cable-tranny-2957505/

any help? will that work ok taking only a part of gear?