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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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how hard is it to do and what all do i need to do this i have serched and they didnt talk much about this and are the drum brakes any smaller then the dx drums
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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You want to upgrade your hf brakes to dx? Why not go to the larger size integra brakes with rear discs?
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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becouse i have a dx parts car in my back yard simple and i dont have the money right now to buy some and there prity bad
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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you would need the dx front spindles and axles. only thing is i don't know how the axle spline that goes into the transmission would differ if is is different at all. you need the axles because the stock hf axle will not fit into the dx hub. but again i don't know about the transmission side, if it is different or not.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:57 AM
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The transmission side of the axle is the same.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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ok so i can keep the trany side with the hf axels but on the driver side i will need the dx?? also found out my roters are scared up a lil bit and am i guna use the dx or hf calipers or are they the same?
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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You read that wrong; transmission side of the axles. You need the DX axles for both sides.

I believe the DX and HF calipers are different; the P/N for the pads look different.

If you're using the DX knuckles, use the DX calipers.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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so can i prity much take every last thing outa the finder well and put it on my hf then switch to dx axles and bee good??
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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no, just the front spindles, brakes, and axles.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Take the whole spindle assembly ( bearing hub, rotors, calipers pads, etc)from lower ball joint to upper A arm ball joint from the DX and put it in the HF ( both sides). The use the DX axels and you are set. Don't try to mix and match calipers or rotors from the DX to the HF. Use all DX stuff.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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ok should i trust axles from a junkyard and would it be any difrence in axes off a auto dx
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Axels from a junk yard are as good as the ones you have now. Do you trust yours?
Can't tell you about the auto or manual. I have an auto CRX in storage but never removed the axles.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Dude you can't use the auto axles, they are different size!
Use the DX axles off your parts car.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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dosnt have them lol no moter eather so all i got is the whole break setup
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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That sucks but get them at like an autozone for 60 bucks each. Rebuilt
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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this is a wicked easy swap. I believe the drums are the same though, so you won't gain anything there, besides you'd want to swap to rear discs anyway if you're gunna go through the hassel of a rear brake swap.
I don't know if you've heard this trick or not, but an easy way to pop the bottom ball joints on your knuckles is to get a long prybar (the longer the better) and put it between the lower control arm and the knuckle, be careful of the ball joint's dust boot, you don't want to tear it. Have a friend pry up on the knuckle while you hit the control arm with a big hammer. It'll pop those babies loose in no time, but remember find the longest prybar you can!
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Just get axles from advance or autzone...you dont want to have to go back and do all that work just to get back in there when they go out.
But yea you want to use dx axles knuckle, and brake setup to get everything to work. Should be a pretty easy swap. Good luck!
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EFRue57
you would need the dx front spindles and axles. only thing is i don't know how the axle spline that goes into the transmission would differ if is is different at all. you need the axles because the stock hf axle will not fit into the dx hub. but again i don't know about the transmission side, if it is different or not.
nononononononononono STOP!

I put HF brakes on my SI (way long story don't ask) and I took them from my HF hubs and put them on DX hubs and they're still working. You don't need other hubs. The brake rotors and calipers bolt just fine on DX hubs.

I did it myself trust me here. Too much misinformation floating around.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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im confused by what u sayed so are u saying i can just take the hf roter or what ever off and it will bolt right up on the hf hub??
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 31flavorscivic
nononononononononono STOP!

I put HF brakes on my SI (way long story don't ask) and I took them from my HF hubs and put them on DX hubs and they're still working. You don't need other hubs. The brake rotors and calipers bolt just fine on DX hubs.

I did it myself trust me here. Too much misinformation floating around.

dude, i have no idea what you are trying to say. you don't take them off a hub. the hub is what is pressed into the wheel bearing and what the wheel studs are pressed in to. if you mean off the spindle which is what i'm assuming then that's different.

and nononononononononono you STOP!. you are the one giving misinformation. it is common knowledge on here that dx/si spindles are different than hf ones. that is why when anyone does a b series swap into an ef you have to use the dx/si spindles or 90-91 ex spindles, or 90-93 integra spindles because otherwise the axles won't work. so therefore if you switch to the dx spindle, you have to use the dx/si axle. i've done these things multiple times and know for fact that it is what is needed.

now if you're talking about just switching the brake components over than that is a different story. i haven't done it personally and yes it would probably work but I wouldn't waste the time doing it. the only real reason to do it is for the ease of a possible swap later on down the road. an extra .4 inches of surface area on a car that has a hard time hitting 60 mph on the highway isn't gonna be a significant difference when it comes to stopping power.

i highly doubt he's gonna swap in another hf motor and even if he did it wouldn't matter because he would have the dx axles to go in it. however if he wanted to go b series he would have to swap the brake components back over to the dx spindles, then waste time switching the spindles over onto his car when he could have done it in the first place.

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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 03:03 AM
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ok i have it strait now and yes im guna eventualy swap in a b20 so guna have to change over anyways but thanks for all yalls held and sry it was a hassle
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