i just bought me a 03 ex. so far i want to buy a injen intake, megan header+high flow cat, skunk2 catback, AEM camgear and a crower stage 1 camshaft. i was wondering if any1 nos if it will b a good idea running crower wit AEM. im just looking for a good daily driver w. a little kick.

 

well to get a lil kick. dont waste ur money on those mods... get a turbo! from Dezod... or build a custom kit... in the end ur burning money!

 

 

he already bought all that sh* no good telling him that now

 

It will do you next to no good, for one simple reason.

The factory ECM won't know what to do with it. You're giving it fuel and air capabilities beyond what it was designed to handle, and as such it won't be able to compensate. If you really want to see some gains, you're going to have to run aftermarket fuel management.

And the only option for an EM2 is Hondata's Kpro.

Pricey? Yes. Worth it? Absolutely. It will run very smooth, and if you have reliability issues it won't be the computer's fault. Hondata retuned a bone-stock EM2 on Kpro, and saw 35whp gain at the wheels.

 

 

i was planning on getn the AEM plugn play. for my EMS. and im not very impressed w. turbod em2s. id rather put the car away for a k.swap

 

link to an article about this? or some sort of proof...i never heard that...

 

http://www.7thgenhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4897

Looks like my memory was faulty, it was more in the ballpark of 30, but that's still damn good for a stock motor.

 

why would honda de-tune the motor like that? for max reliability?

 

No, that's stressing the motor pushing it that hard. Also, that's throwing mileage out the window, but with open-loop fuel management, you can have separate profiles for when you want to go *****-out or just cruise on down the highway.

 

WOW, thanks for the link man. that's pretty sweet, i wonder what a d17 would put down with bolt on's and k-pro.

 

You're probably not going to see much beyond 180whp without forced induction, the D17 head just can't flow that well without a little help.

 

i mean thats good, but whhat if you just buy a Dezod turbo kit, Hondata, and then what the #'s? ive seen a plenty of turbo cars go over a hundred thousand miles with that... and in the reliability is only lost when ur a tard driving a boosted car. it's that same way when buying an EVO!?

 

180whp still isn't bad for a dd. it would put it a few steps behind a stock rsx-s and you would probably spend about the same on both.

then again, i think 180whp is still a little high for k-pro + bolt ons...that's 60whp from i/h/e and maybe a cam...i'm not so sure about that.

 

no he said so far he WANTS

learn to read

 

Yeah, I was talking about a really aggressive cam, PnP head, etc. About as far as you could possibly go without boost.

 

No way in hell is the d17 with k-pro and bolt on's making 180whp....there is no point. Boost it and get 220whp.you will pay the same amount to boost it than if you did everything to get it to 180whp with just bolt-ons and k-pro...plus the amazing sound of the turbo spooling and the BOV going off...makes everyone look at ur car and be like WTF!!!!!!!!!!

 

Im all for breaking new barriers... but for the price.. idk boost???... n/a???.. im thinking for the price of a turbo kit you can pnp your head and buy new cams pistons and rods

 

Stock internals can handle a simple K-Pro upgrade without a problem.

 

do that, its reliable, and all youll need is a tune after wards.... I.H.E. are waste unless you get it!!!

 

I think it's possible. It'd take E85 and some good tuning, but I think a D17 could make 180 without boost.

Yeah, I wasn't saying it couldn't. Might help to rebuild to 11.5:1 or so, though.

 

lol. gayest post ever.

boost = problems.

go all motor son.

 

It's not a dumb post if you understand the D17. Boosting the D17 is the easier way to get power out of it, NA power out of the D17 is just a theory at this point. No one's done it. There are a lot of variables, and so far it's just conjecture.

 

lol. gayest post ever.