I own a EM1 it's my daily driver. I lowered it using TEIN S tech springs, kyb struts. I originaly used Skunk2 camber kit, but I have had problems with the camber kit ever since day one. I am looking to replace the front camber kit. Any suggestions?

 

Anyone?

 

what kind of problems? because if you have old version you sure will.

 

mainly with the fact that the adjustable ball joint keeps slipping under alot of pressure

 

i have the newest kit and do autocross with it and has never slipped on me. the older design i think had a problem with this however.

 

Just update it with a new Skunk 2 one.

 

Just go back to stock UCA's. Get it aligned and call it a day. Tire wear will not be a problem.

Adjustable camber kits are more trouble than they're worth, unless you're trying to ADD MORE negative camber.

 

Skunk 2...

 

Agree!

 

I have the new version skunk2's, I just tightened the bolts on the balljoint as much as I could and used thread locker to keep them in place, and I haven't had a problem since.

I did hear of many problems with the old ones though.

 

This is starting to sound like a broken record on this site. This simple truth keeps being repeated to people who don't want to believe it and would rather buy shiny new parts instead...

That said, Patrick speaks the truth. Stock UCAs are better in every way for a street driven car. A track driven car in need of even more negative camber, can benefit from a camber kit if the driver is willing to deal with the detriments that come with them.

 

im running skunk2 pro series, never had a problem. ive seen buddy club slip and bend the sliding part for the ball joint. same as old skunk2.

 

Okay thanks for everyones suggestions and inputs....I guess I'm going to look into the skunk2 once again.... and use thread lock just to make sure it don't slip

 

Clearly didn't listen to those who knew what they were talking about.

 

gl with it man. I have sK2 pro series and they havnt gave me any trouble till this day.

 

Are after market UCA ball joints replaceable?

 

SPC's are pretty nice (function wise, not eye candy wise...). They have 4 bolts that keep things tight and you can adjust your caster with them, too.

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Those things look like they would seriously decrease UCA-to-frame rail/shock tower clearance.

 

I'm sure if you were slammed, they would as they are probably 1/2" or so taller in the middle (above the ball joint). I'll try to get a pic of them side by side with a stock one so people can see the difference. My car isn't super low; I have GC/Koni's and have it slightly lower than stock. I was more concerened about performance than seeing how low I could get.

Ryan

 

The best kit would have to be skunk2, definitely the best one for the price and quality... i use to have it on my car..

 

I'd like to know how having negative camber is better than having little to no camber at all. If you have any camber at all your tires are going to wear faster than normal. Even if it takes a while. I disagree that stock is better. With a quality aftermarket kit you get a much better part that will last just as long, if not longer

I know what I'm talking about. I've used both stock and aftermarket and aftermarket is clearly the better choice.

 

This has been covered repeatedly, but why not.

If you have any camber at all they'll wear faster, huh? Then why did my GSR come with -1* of camber up front? Oh noes, Honda wants to wear out my tires extra fast to sell me replacements!

Ok, jokes aside.

I daily drive with -4* of front camber. My tires are half worn, after 2.5 years and approximately 20k miles. They're also worn perfectly evenly across the tread face.

A camber adjusting UCA is taller than stock. This reduces available suspension travel, as the UCA will now contact the shock tower sooner during bump. This is the downside of this type of camber kit.

And why do people install a camber kit? Because they lowered the car and think they need one. Lets think this through, I just reduced what little suspension travel my car came with through lowering (about the only thing I hate about my Integra, it didn't have adequate travel stock). Do I really want to reduce that available travel further by adding an unneeded part?

Product quality never comes into the picture. Stock parts will outlast the car. Aftermarket parts don't. Either way, its a moot point.

 

^^ Ya. Plus having camber won't wear your tires away super fast on the inside for no reason. Does the middle of the tread wear away super fast when you are running 0* of camber? No. Toe in or out is what will kill your tires faster than anything because they are not pointed in the exact direction the car is going and will scrub away. Plenty of cars have very very slight toe in, like 1/8" or a fraction of a degree, but that won't do anything drastic to the tires.

Get an alignment with stock parts and call it a day. Plus, you can't tuck a tire when you are lowered 3" with 0* camber, right?

 

My original upper control arms were on my car for over 12 years. I'd like to see ANY aftermarket adjustable upper control arm do that. I highly doubt it's possible.

 

You sir, just saved me a lot of money. So are rear camber kits worth it then? How about aftermarket toe adjusters?