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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 02:33 AM
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 03:28 AM
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Nice pics, Will

Jason-
who has yet to heat wrap, and hopes his stuff will be okay at CMP
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 03:33 AM
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Will, nice pics. Hope it's an effective solution to ball joint protection. But how are you going to protect against that missing brake rotor problem you've got going on there....?
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 04:25 AM
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and thats number 143 of things to do..........

looks good Will
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 04:40 AM
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DUDE, thats what I need to do!! Bring some extra to CMP if you have it, I would love to do that...
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 04:41 AM
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what is the heat resistance in degrees on the tape, and where did you get it?
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 04:52 AM
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http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/

-click shop on-line store
-search by part number (1843)
-order

It is like header wrap but a little thinner. The adheasive on the non-silver side is very good for holding the 'tape' on.

Corey:
I have 2 cars to do before yours... if there is any left... I will stop by.

Will
-who has little blisters on his ABS lines.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 04:54 AM
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what is the heat resistance in degrees on the tape
Not sure of the resistance... the thickenss of the tape will not provide much... the reflective stuff will help more...
The heat conductivity thru the parts is the main problem... and can only be fiex with ducted air or liquid cooling.

Will
-who wants some ducts next.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 04:57 AM
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Nice job Will.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 06:05 AM
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Do you think that leaving the heat/dust shield on would help?




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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 06:14 AM
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Do you think that leaving the heat/dust shield on would help?
yup.. the ball joins would be safe and the ABS lines would stay cool....

...but not even NASA (Aerospace version) could make brake pads that would last more than one track day on my car... i.e. the shields had to come off.

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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 06:15 AM
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Do you think that leaving the heat/dust shield on would help?
Yes, but for our application (on-track) it is more important to get as much air as possible to the rotors/calipers.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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...but not even NASA (Aerospace version) could make brake pads that would last more than one track day on my car...

LOL! Get one of the Florida we-todds to send you some shuttle tiles - maybe those would hold up
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 06:35 AM
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...but not even NASA (Aerospace version) could make brake pads that would last more than one track day on my car...

LOL! Get one of the Florida we-todds to send you some shuttle tiles - maybe those would hold up
LMAO! Nice Splat!
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 06:37 AM
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Have you been having a problem with ball joints/boots?
I would think the tie rod and lower BJ move enough to shred the wrap after a while?
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 06:47 AM
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Have you been having a problem with ball joints/boots?
nto yet... the ABS line developed a little bubble a while back... so this is just insurance.

I would think the tie rod and lower BJ move enough to shred the wrap after a while?
they may... but the tape is very pliable and sticks very well.

Track time will tell.

AdamITR (who let me know where to get the tape) had his joints wrapped up at the Summit Race... maybe he can tell us how well it lasts.

Will
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 07:24 AM
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maybe just put a small hose clamp on to keep the tape from peeling up

I could show you what I'm talking about
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 07:44 AM
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The box suggests using small wire to wrap around the tape at temps over 250F or so.

I will give this a try at CMP and see how well it holds up.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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The box suggests using small wire to wrap around the tape at temps over 250F or so.

I will give this a try at CMP and see how well it holds up.
something like safety wire or whatever , all along the same lines

do you need me to bring some down to cmp? I have ALOT
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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i wonder if the heat radiation you are preventing outweighs the lesser cooling rate by covering the pieces from air. its probably better, but i just wonder.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 11:59 AM
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rod and lower BJ move enough to shred the wrap after a while?
I dont even want to ask

Will - Sounds like some ducts would do ya good...I'm actually looking into doing this myself, just trying to find a good way to approach it. D has a good idea with the euro fog light inserts. So having the shields on will tear up the brakes quicker? Didn't really think about it, but makes sense since the heat would stay near that calipers.


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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 04:43 AM
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gawd

I dont even want to ask
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 07:23 AM
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D has a good idea with the euro fog light inserts.
Please elaborate. Do you have a pic of the euro foglight inserts?
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 07:47 AM
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Great idea
Me think me gona have to do.
Thanks
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 08:20 AM
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Just speculating -
If most of the heat is transferred from the brakes is through the metal parts and not from the surrounding atmosphere, won't putting reflective tape actually keep the heat in the metal parts and ball joints, rather than letting air get to them to cool? It is almost like you are insulating the parts...
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