i have a 92 civic dx hatch and my tires balded soooo fast. i had kumho ecsta spt's and the inside of the tires which ive been told is from camber wear is completely bald. so i heard i need a camber kit but if i make the wheels straighten out it doesnt look like the tires would be able to tuck without rubbing???

but all in all im getting new tires from discount tires just wondering what to get?
i dont want kumho spt's again. i want to try something new.

thinking about falken azenis??
just an all around good tire. not much rain out here in vegas .

 

First of all, if your Kumho SPT's didn't last you at least 25-30K miles, then the problem is with your car. If you want longer and more even treadwear, you need to fix your car; otherwise, any tire isn't going to last you very long. The most common cause of uneven wear like you describe is alignment, and in particular bad toe rather than bad camber. It can also be caused by suspension problems, which might include bad bushings, bent control arm, blown shocks, bent tie rod, etc. So you need to get a good alignment and also get your car up on a lift and inspected by someone with suspension experience.

As for treadwear, you can get tires that will last you longer, but they won't grip as well as the SPT. For longer treadwear, all-season tires are a better bet; just keep in mind that they trade off warm-weather performance for the greater flexibility of dealing with snow and frigid cold (which I assume from your location you don't care about) as well as longer treadwear. If you want treadlife that's longer than the SPT but you don't want crappy performance, I recommend the all-season Kumho ASX (or, if you have 14" wheels, the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position). If you want performance and treadlife that's similar to the SPT, other tires to consider include the Yokohama S.drive and the Fuzion ZRi (or, if you have 14" wheels, the Yokohama ES100). I can be more specific if you tell us what size wheels you're using.

The Falken Azenis RT-615 is NOT a good choice if you are looking for long treadlife. They will only give you about one third as many miles as the Kumho SPT, when used under the same conditions (i.e. both with your alignment/suspension problems, or both with the alignment/suspension fixed). Typically you can expect 10-12K miles from the Falken Azenis RT-615, and 25-45K miles from the Kumho SPT. The Azenis is a great choice if you care only about performance, such as if you take your car to autocrosses or track events, but not if you care about how long your tires last.

 

i have 15 inch wheels right now with kumho 195/55 or 50?/ 15

i dont know
i just thought the tire around it looked too small but maybe its because my tread wore down so fast.the performance was pretty good but they didnt last long and i want alittle bit bigger tire or ill just stay with the same size. i wanted a littttle bit more meatier tire but not where i was gonna rub my fenders becaue the front of my car tucks a little.

i dont know if i had 195/50/15's or 195/55/15's but do u think that it would make a difference with the 55?

 

15 x 6.5 wheels
i also want good performance because its not a stock motor eg.
it has a stock gsr motor but i daily drive it
and in vegas it doesnt reach low temperatures and in summer it reaches 100+ every day

 

just for rain/dry daily tire.

i'd get whatever is cheapest. falken912 or kumho ASX (from review recommand ASX more than cheap falken's).

right now i have falken 912's on my stock gsr. i only drive on dry and rain (no hard driving/just to work).no problem driving around. however i would not buy them again. lol

i just ordered Bridgestone RE960AS PP. serarched and read many good reviews (all-season). price was nice too. $332 for 195/65/15. so your price might be little cheaper.

 

do u think i need all season tires though if it never reaches low temperatures in vegas???
because the spt is a highperformance summer tire right?
so should i get an all season or just a summer tire?

 

usually all summer tires have low threadlife compare to all-reasons.

like you said, just for driving around, i'd get kumho ASX or RE960. (depends on price).

go to tirerack and compare tires and read reviews.

*i'd wait till naxtasy to reply*

 

For 15" wheels on your car, you should be using 195/50-15.

Summer tires give you better performance than all-season tires. (Even more so in that size, because the best all-seasons like the ASX and RE960AS aren't available in that size; you'll instead be looking at a tire like the mediocre Falken ZE-912 or Kumho AST, or the super-expensive Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S.) All-season tires will last longer than summer tires. A good summer tire like the Kumho SPT or Yokohama S.drive should last anywhere from 25K to 45K miles. All-seasons may last you from 35K to 60K miles. That's the trade-off, treadlife vs performance; the decision on which way to go is up to you.

 

Nothing wrong with Kuhmo's. I have them and would buy them again.

 

x2. Blaming the tire for a problem caused by your neglect of the car is just silly. If you won't give them another chance because of your toe-out problem up front, then you'll never own the same set of tires twice regardless of brand or model because no other tire will fare differently. The Kumho SPTs are an excellent value for the money and offer a great balance of dry grip and tread life. When was the last time you had the car on an alignment rack? What were the specs? When was the last time you had the car in the air to inspect ball joints and bushings?

And you should continue using 195/50-15 tires as they are the correct 15-inch tire size for your vehicle.

 

i have the azenis on now,had them since feb. add put only around 7k mi. on them,went to discount tire to get them rotated and the manager said he wont do it cuz the fronts are bald but the rears are good.he said he'll give me any tires @half off since the didnt last.WONT BUY AZENIS AGAIN! thinking about getting spt and the guys says they arent as good as the ast. is he correct?how are they compared to azenis?

 

Note that part of the problem in this case is the lack of rotation. When you're using tires that only last 10-12K miles, you need to rotate them more frequently; I would suggest every 3-5K miles. That way, all four tires will wear out at the same time (in your case, probably at the short end of that 10-12K range, many not even), rather than the fronts lasting 7K and the rears significantly more.

NO! Except maybe in snow, since the AST is an all-season.

Most Kumho dealers keep the AST in stock, and have to special order the SPT. That's why they'll tell you lies like that one.

I'm not sure whether you're asking about the AST or the SPT. The AST is a mediocre all-season tire that gives okay but not very good performance in rain and on dry pavement and on snow. The SPT is a longer-lasting summer tire that offers very good performance on dry pavement, outstanding performance in rain, and shouldn't be used in snow. The Azenis is a fast-wearing summer tire that offers outstanding performance on dry pavement (better than the SPT, although you'll notice it more on an autocross course than in daily driving) but is not great in rain (considerably worse than the SPT) and shouldn't be used in snow.

 

^^^THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!i think i will get the spt's then!

 

Just a quick word about availability - Tire Rack and Discount Tire Direct have stopped showing a lot of the SPT sizes on their website. Theoretically, any Kumho dealer should be able to order them for you, but they might not have them in stock.

If you need a tire that's similar in price and performance, the Yokohama S.drive is carried by both internet dealers in most popular sizes.

Nothing against the SPT - I use them myself!

 

yeah i know,the dealer was pushing hard for me to get the ast and said he'd have to order the spt.i dont mind since i am getting them half off

 

well my car did have blown shocks which i replaced and i got new lca's but only in the back so i guarantee that didnt fix anything. i just havent thought to align it because out here in vegas i dont know who to trust because so many people make a bunch of bullshit up for you to buy parts that are a lot of money.

i also heard that getting an allignment will help but my problem can also be fixed easier by getting a camber kit instead of dealing with getting an allignment then replacin parts??

thanks for all the info guys.
i think i want a summer tire i just want to try something new??? whats wrong with that. im just wondering what tires all of you like for a daily driving summer tire. just want to try something different and see which i prefer.....
but no matter what i guess i will need to get an allignment and get it checked out but at the moment my tires are bald so i need to get tires then do the allignment when i get the cash...

 

There's no sense in getting a camber kit unless you are going to do an alignment anyway. Just do the alignment, and if the camber comes out within spec, you won't need the camber kit.

 

alignment is $40 and they'll prolong your tires compared to camber kits at around $100+ and bald tires.

 

i think the camber will be out of spec because my wheels are hella turned inwards especially up front. but if i decide not to get a camber kit...will they fix other things that will help? even if my camber is past spec?

 

Yes. Tell them to ignore the camber, and to set the toe to dead center of the factory specification range. That should reduce inner shoulder wear to a minimum if done properly. You may still have slight uneven wear, but it won't be chewing the tires to the cords in a matter of months.

Make sure to ask for before & after printouts and to post them here.

 

aight ill ask. thanks for the help
im getting new tires at discount tire so u think theyll do the allignment there??
hopefully my car can get on the lift becaue its really low up front

 

As nsxtasy said, if you are daily driving Azenis tires don't expect them to be a high mileage tire. Jxhxb, as mentioned your car's suspension is not properly maintained therefore you are chewing up tires at an irregular rate...

 

Have been using Kumhos for years and love them

 

Kumhos are the most underrated tires out there.

this is true.... even a blown shock can greatly decrease the life expectancy of any tire.

 

Most brands, including Kumho, make different tires for different purposes - some tires designed for the racetrack, some tires designed for daily driving, some tires designed for a low price, etc. Kumho makes some excellent tires - including its V710 track tire, XS supersticky street tire, SPT budget performance summer tire, and ASX all-season tire - and they also make some really crappy tires, including the AST all-season tire and the 711 and now-discontinued 712 summer tires.