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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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hey does anyone have a problem with the Si's throttle delay?..i think thats what it is..i left off the gas and it still revs...i tried searching other post on HT...cant seem to find it..so can anyone help me on this?

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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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it's normal....everyone pretty much deals with it. that's the side effect of the Drive By Wire system
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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i have horrible throttle delay on my 07. my rev hang is horrible as well....

i can shift through my gears with out losing any rpm =/

can you say gas guzzler =P. buddy club did just come out with a throttle booster that is universal for all drive by wire cars. its a little pricey at 350 bucks, but is supposed to help out a significant amount.

also,if you are driving an 06, there is an ecu update to fix some of the rev hang. it is only on 06 ecu's though. go to your local honda dealer and they will do it no charge.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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Yea DBW FTL

From what I understand, its the reason Hondata is having problems with Tuning the SI.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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I get rev-hang in third, but that's about it.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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it's not gear specific....you either have it or your don't
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 100miles+
Yea DBW FTL

From what I understand, its the reason Hondata is having problems with Tuning the SI.
i don't think hondata is having any trouble tuning the si, since they've come out with several reflash's. i think they just don't want to sell a way to tune the ecu's ourselves.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtySOHC's
it's not gear specific....you either have it or your don't
that too. if you have an 06+ civic, you have rev-hang, in every gear.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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i don't think hondata is having any trouble tuning the si, since they've come out with several reflash's. i think they just don't want to sell a way to tune the ecu's ourselves.
that is kinda hard to believe. it would be more profitable for hondata to produce a tunable ECU. they have to know that they'll get more business from 06+ civic owners if they made one.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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that is kinda hard to believe. it would be more profitable for hondata to produce a tunable ECU. they have to know that they'll get more business from 06+ civic owners if they made one.
how do you know that? they've done the math, and you haven't. do you know how much money comptech pays them for every reflash they sell? what about jackson racing? we don't know the numbers, so we can't speculate.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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All of the new Si's have a Rev hang. Its because when your racing you want your RPM's to stay high. There's a reason its dubbed the Si.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispasley
All of the new Si's have a Rev hang. Its because when your racing you want your RPM's to stay high. There's a reason its dubbed the Si.
haha i really hope you're joking.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Ok so your telling me that honda dont build these cars with a Rev hang. So your smarter than honda now. lol
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Intentionally with a Rev hang**
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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how do you know that? they've done the math, and you haven't. do you know how much money comptech pays them for every reflash they sell? what about jackson racing? we don't know the numbers, so we can't speculate.
calm down lil buddy. I was only arguing your "specualtion" that they don't want to sell tunable ECU's. I simply posted my "speculation" as to way they should sell us tunable ECU's.

Unless you work for hondata then all we can do is speculate. how do you know the "math" they've done lead them to the concluesion that selling reflashes was the end all be all.

nobody knows.....unless you work for the company then I retract my statements.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Ok so your telling me that honda dont build these cars with a Rev hang. So your smarter than honda now. lol

nope, i'm definitely not. that's not what your post was claiming, so that's not what i was refuting.

you said that honda put the rev-hang in so that when you're racing the rpm will stay higher, and that it's the reason it's called the si. there are a few things wrong with that statement: the rev-hang doesn't help with "racing" in any way, and if anything, it hinders it, because it now takes longer to rev-match. also, the si was still called the si before honda put dbw in it, and, all of the 06+ civics have dbw, not just the si. so no, it's not called the si because of the dbw.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtySOHC's
calm down lil buddy. I was only arguing your "specualtion" that they don't want to sell tunable ECU's. I simply posted my "speculation" as to way they should sell us tunable ECU's.

Unless you work for hondata then all we can do is speculate. how do you know the "math" they've done lead them to the concluesion that selling reflashes was the end all be all.

nobody knows.....unless you work for the company then I retract my statements.
i'm just saying that hondata has already obviously "cracked the code" for the ecu, and that they DO know how to program it, as evidenced by the few reflash's that they've already put out. therefore, the reason for hondata not releasing a programmable ecu for the civic like they did for the rsx isn't because they don't know how to program it. as for why they don't release one like they have for the rsx, we can only guess, cuz of course they're not going to tell us anything.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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Ok your not rev matching anything when your racing. Your basically trying to put as much power to the ground as possible in every gear without spinning. I can see that your trying to rev match at take off so you dont spin but after that no.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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I drive a 2007 honda civic si sedan so i know that that on a stock si the wheels will not spin after third in dry conditions, and its sometimes hard to get 3rd to chirp.
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Originally Posted by vladd
i'm just saying that hondata has already obviously "cracked the code" for the ecu, and that they DO know how to program it, as evidenced by the few reflash's that they've already put out. therefore, the reason for hondata not releasing a programmable ecu for the civic like they did for the rsx isn't because they don't know how to program it. as for why they don't release one like they have for the rsx, we can only guess, cuz of course they're not going to tell us anything.

we'll never know.

I'll just continue to hope that they do release a tunable ECU. People are going to out grow reflashes. there's a bigger market for people that want more than a reflash compared to people that want a reflash.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispasley
I drive a 2007 honda civic si sedan so i know that that on a stock si the wheels will not spin after third in dry conditions, and its sometimes hard to get 3rd to chirp.
chirping is a bad thing; it means that engine power is used to spin the tires instead of accelerate the car. how exactly does the rev-hang help with racing? i'd love to hear the explanation.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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I never said that tire spin is a good thing. I'll retract what I said about the Rev-hang
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I never said that tire spin is a good thing. I'll retract what I said about the Rev-hang
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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I never said that tire spin is a good thing. I'll retract what I said about the Rev-hang
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Wow def didnt mean to post that 3 times.
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