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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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i got this thing and (89 si) the rear brake where swapped from a integra, but which brake cable do you use? he cut the civic ones out, and was wondering if the integra ones fit correctly..

and what about front brake, will the integra front brakes swap over to?

im having a issue with right hieght to. he has the front arms(adjustable sliding ball joint) in it from a 94 up teg, which they bolt in but the the front are still leaning in to far. and the nose sits low still with stock suspension. should i get the integra front springs and put them in and cut coils down till i get the hieght i need?

oh yeah this has the b18 swap, cabel trans and turbo setup sitting over the nose.
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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If your going to keep the integra rears you can use the integra cables but i would recomend the crx ones pretty good deal through fastbrakes.com

it's not really necessary to swap the fronts though
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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If its a CRX use CRX Si cables if its a hatch use 90-93 Integra coupe rear cables
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Fastbrakes kit in the front FTW!
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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i did a 91 integra brake swap on my 91 civic and i used the 91 integra brake cables that came with the disk brakes and it works perfectly
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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i kind of figure that with the cables...but what about the springs?

i dont think new front springs will help unless they are stiffer rate
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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i kind of figure that with the cables...but what about the springs?

i dont think new front springs will help unless they are stiffer rate

buy the right stuff for the car. using the upper control arms from a 94-00 integra on an 88-91 does not work no matter what combo you try. get the adjustable control arms for an ef and get springs for an ef. companies make these for a reason. because it works and is correct.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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no ****..i know the 94 teg stuff dont work, cause that what they put in the car. and putting the new ef springs in the front the car still sags. the stock ef was not made for the b18 drivetrain wieght. and find that the teg front struts and mounts are all the same, i figure why not just use the springs from a da and trim a coil or so to get it back to ride hieght. im just going to try it and see.
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no ****..i know the 94 teg stuff dont work, cause that what they put in the car. and putting the new ef springs in the front the car still sags. the stock ef was not made for the b18 drivetrain wieght. and find that the teg front struts and mounts are all the same, i figure why not just use the springs from a da and trim a coil or so to get it back to ride hieght. im just going to try it and see.
all right lets address everything you just said

"No ****"

well if you knew this then why are the 94 integra uca's still on the car and why are you trying to compensate by using 90-93 integra springs? agiain, if you buy adjustable uca for the ef and use an ef spring you wont have the "sagging" problem.

"The stock ef was not made for the b18 drivetrain weight"

so i guess what you're saying is that when they put the b16 in the ef's in japan they had sagging problems too? the b18 and b16 weight differences are not that significant. and i don't think Honda really went and made an entirely different spring/strut combo just for the ef's with b series swaps. but heres a possibility. you have a car that is 16-20 years old and the suspension is worn out and needs replacement.


"and find that the teg front struts and mounts are all the same"

crx/civic strut part number - 51606-SH3-905
integra strut part number - 51606-ST7-902
crx/civic uca part number - 51450-SH3-023
integra uca part number - 51450-ST7-020

none of it is the same and is not made for the car. just because it bolts up does not mean that it is correct geometry for the car.

"i figure why not just use the springs from a da and trim a coil or so to get it back to ride hieght"

because it's ghetto rigging. but if you're down with that then by all means go ahead and put half *** **** on your car. or instead of spending the money buying integra ****, how about buying the parts for an ef considering that is what the car is?

probably no point in me even doing all of this because i'm sure you'll find some way to justify what you're doing in your own head and think that i'm an idiot for buying parts for my specific car and not pieceing things together from differnt cars trying to make something work. anybody can make something work but here's an idea, how about making it right?
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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then please go to napa or advance web site and tell me why the part numbers are the same for the front struts and plates?
im not comparing the wieght of a b16 to a b18 now am i you ****tard. im comparing wieghts of the sohc vs dohc. i know for a fact the trans weigths twice as much.and please go look up the part number for the jdm version front springs. for the sohc and dohc.

rigging is what these **** heads have done to this poor car.i have the correct upper's for the car sitting here. and after installing new spring's, struts and plates for a ef si, and the front end is sitting still a bit low for my taste.
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then please go to napa or advance web site and tell me why the part numbers are the same for the front struts and plates?
im not comparing the wieght of a b16 to a b18 now am i you ****tard. im comparing wieghts of the sohc vs dohc. i know for a fact the trans weigths twice as much.and please go look up the part number for the jdm version front springs. for the sohc and dohc.

rigging is what these **** heads have done to this poor car.i have the correct upper's for the car sitting here. and after installing new spring's, struts and plates for a ef si, and the front end is sitting still a bit low for my taste.
no i won't go to their site becauseI don't shop at napa or advance. i go to Honda, the people who originally made the cars, and get the part numbers from them and they show them as being different parts. hmmm, funny the originators of the vehicles show that they are different parts, but this other company says, they are the same. who should i believe? i'll go with the other company, it's obvious Honda doesn't know what they are talking about.

and i know you weren't comparing between a b16 to a b18, but i was saying that there were ef's that came w/ b series motors originally and they didn't seem to have a problem with suspension.

you never once stated in any of your previous posts that you had the correct upper's for the car, you just said that the 94 teg adjustable was on it, which is not the correct upper control arms for it.

and i think it's kinda funny that you come on here asking for advice about how to fix your car and when i try and help you want to get all e-thug on me calling me a "****tard", as you so cleverly typed, and want to be an *** hat about it. i was just on here trying to point you in the right direction, not start a gay **** talking argument. sorry you got your butt hurt. next time i'll just tell you, "yeah man put the DA springs on and then cut down to size, that's seems like it would work."

and all of this coming from someone who doesn't even know how to do a front or rear disk brake conversion? tell you what junior, why don't you try that nifty little search feature on here, and try doing a little research yourself? then maybe you'll see that some of this stuff has been covered before and then you won't have to worry about arguing on what you think is right and what other people know is right.

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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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oh yeah, and if you would have taken just a little bit of time maybe reading the FAQ's, you might have come across this which might help you with what springs you could try and use.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/88-91-crx-spring-rates-%2Asticky%2A-1914404/

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and even if that doesn't help, here's another idea, get adjustable coilovers. that way you can set the ride height to exactly what you want.
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