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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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So i was driving today and my car just shuts off on me. Im not sure what the problem is but maybe i can get some help. I checked all the grounds and the battery is still good.

The first video is of the outside/engine bay
The second video is of a sound that i think may be the main relay? but its a clicking sound, you'll hear it






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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Try to swap out the main relay with a known good one and go from there.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Did the motor always spin that fast.... too me... my b18 sounded just like that when my timing belt broke....
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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My car did the same thing (d15 motor) the coil went out when i was driving, Make sure you have spark, also make sure the timeing belt is good and didn't jump

Good Luck man
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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im gonna take off the vc right now and see whats up with the timing belt
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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the belt still seems tight from what i can see(taking off valve cover)

are the cams suppose to be the same? (pointed in same direction)




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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Maybe if you threaten to smash it with a hammer, it'll get scared and start working again.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Maybe if you threaten to smash it with a hammer, it'll get scared and start working again.
as long as you dont do it..you might get dirt in my eyes again
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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like what was mentioned check for spark cause i had couple friends whos car died while driving and it all turned out to be the distributor not producing spark..good luck
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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going to swap relays with my brothers integra today and see what happens from there..hopefully its nothing big
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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Bobby if you need a relay I have a brand new one you can test with. (I'm not sure if the teg and civics are the same.) I've still have a problem with my car dying too. If I push it hard then come to a stop for ~10 secs, the car just dies. But it will start back up, really weird. Is that how yours is?
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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(Just watched the vids): Can you hear the fuel pump prime?
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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THE TIMING BELT IS BROKEN!!! have someone crank the car with the valve cover on and see if the rocker arms are moving,,, or cam for that matter...... you probably stripped the belt at the crank which is why it looks tight at the cams....
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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also the dead giveaway is your intake cam is 180 degrees off!!!! hope you didn't bend any valves!!!
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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def check that belt out it looks hella tight and then make sure your getting spark i had a friend who had a prob with keeping the rotors in place and they would just come loose and not start..
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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Yeah, I'd check the belt, but I'd also see if its getting spark. I am almost betting its a main rely problem though, from the click inside the cabin. Only I dont think it'd sound like that, mostly just an actual clicking sound
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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ill bet 100 dollars .... that he stripped teeth on his timing belt..... any takers pm me!!!
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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dude. its timing look at the belt at t.d.c the exhast isnt t.d.c .... and a very good chance of a bent valve or 2.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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Sounds like when my T-belt skipped a whole bunch of teeth and blew my freshly built 1mm os valved LS head

No start conditions check fuel, spark, and compression... in your case id check the belt for any sheered off teeth. If okay, reset timing and do a compression test to check for bent valves. Hope everythings alright man.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ForceFed Motorsports
Sounds like when my T-belt skipped a whole bunch of teeth and blew my freshly built 1mm os valved LS head

No start conditions check fuel, spark, and compression... in your case id check the belt for any sheered off teeth. If okay, reset timing and do a compression test to check for bent valves. Hope everythings alright man.
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ill bet 100 dollars .... that he stripped teeth on his timing belt..... any takers pm me!!!
+++3,4,5 the only time I have heard an engine sound like that was a bad tbelt
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Dude... SHitty... NO compression for sure.

It has jumped time due to the belt being [freak]ed (not neccessarily broke) from the looks of it. The cam gear (intake)) is WAYYYYY out.

Regardless it DID jump time..... as long as you didnt while beating on it..., [freak] it, put a new belt on it line em up and if there are no dropped valves or anything obvious.. Do a compression check. If all seems well, id rock it...


If it were mine id take the head off and check the head/valves/pistons.

Pistons for evidence of valve contact, valves for the same, and have the head pressure checked (or you could do the poormans by filling the ports with rubbing alcohol and see if they leak.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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TJ: yeap i hear the fuel pump priming..i'll pm you if i need that main relay .thanks!!

how do i go about checking the timing belt? i was just think'n about taking off the vc then the plactic cover (top portion)..you think that'll do?
i talked to stefan at advancestreetperformance (my mechanic) and he said he'll be at my house when he can

i wasnt beating on it at time of happening..i was just cruising doing about 35 then the car just just turned off ( i saw the oil and battery light lit) then pulled over

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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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your timing belt is stripped
look at your cam gears!!!
your intake cam is a complete 180 off compared to the exhaust cam

no need to do anything else to find a problem
i see it clear as day in the pic
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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hey bobby you figure it out yet? For sure your notr getting any spark maybe your dizzy?
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by John M
your timing belt is stripped
look at your cam gears!!!
your intake cam is a complete 180 off compared to the exhaust cam

no need to do anything else to find a problem
i see it clear as day in the pic
I agree!!
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