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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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I just wanted to know is 56k worth of miles ok to run maybe a greddy kit on?,,, btw how many miles can you go before you boost a s2k the most ive seen is a guy with a b16 with a greddy kit with 96k worth of miles on it.
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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I just wanted to know is 56k worth of miles ok to run maybe a greddy kit on?,,, btw how many miles can you go before you boost a s2k the most ive seen is a guy with a b16 with a greddy kit with 96k worth of miles on it.
Greddy is the LAST kit you should put on your car, its hardly a "compete kit". You can't compare an F20/22 to a B16, Its all about how well your car is tuned and how well you take care of the motor; Mase put down 520ish with an F20 that had around 126,000 miles on it. learn the car before you mod it...

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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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i kno about the MOTOR, i just asked about miles, i kno its all about a good tune, but the ?'s is how long will a good tune last? now that i kno, ill definitely do some research, but i learn something new, i thought greddy was good, i thought it was just their manifolds cracking..
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 03:00 AM
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If you knew about the motor, you wouldn't ask. It's forged from the factory and mileage really has nothing to do with the condition of the motor. Do a compression and leak down test. That'll show a lot more than the odometer. Kyle said you need to learn the car, not the motor. Drive it for a while before you start messing with it.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 03:34 AM
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i kno about the MOTOR, i just asked about miles, i kno its all about a good tune, but the ?'s is how long will a good tune last? now that i kno, ill definitely do some research, but i learn something new, i thought greddy was good, i thought it was just their manifolds cracking..
How long will a good tune last? how ever long the motor lasts How long the motor will last is up to you

Here is what sucks on the greddy kit.

The management, turbo, manifold, injectors, intercooler piping, internal wastegate and the down pipe.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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sorry that you read the thread and had to say "why ask the question if you kno the motor?, know that u have ask'd that question, i have one for you, are you familiar with hondata? even hondata are having a hard time tuning the 8th gen civics and trust me i think they know the motor so therefore just because you know a motor doesnt mean you know everthing capatable with it, and if i knew the whole motor i would be on here asking ?'s still and even the wizards(not me) ask questions, and if someone on here is not actually a newb and want to kno the same ? i askd, lets put in a scenario, lets say a used ap1 with 100k+ miles on it, being turboed with a great tune, but im assuming the guy above was confused wen i said how long will a good tune last, im assuming he's never heard of wear and tear, well along the lines of a tuned turboed ap1 with the miles stated earlier will eventaully wear off due to stock internals and the motor being in the 100+ range, im guessing here, now its time to dig into the motor and get low compression pistons and rods, maybe even retainers due to the exsecive 8.9k 0r 9k+ redline with hondata(dont know if the ap1 uses k-pro or s300) on the ap1.
on the other hand a tune will not last as long as the motor, due to different driving styles(you have beaters and repectful drivers) and i dont care how good of a tune you have the motor will not last if your flooring it everytime a m3 or so pulls up on the side of you, and i kno some one here is going to say hey racing on the street is stupid but after a while you get used to a couple of freeway pulls and such. but i apologize for those who feel they have to rant in this thread. and to sandiegan i was thinking comptech i was on s2ki lurking and it was the most talk'd abot FI on the forum. thanks
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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and if i misleadingly put something in the reply please feel free to correct it if you know what your talking about thanks.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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as mentioned, the forged internals equate to almost no wear/tear
the timing chain equates to no belt breakage
and before anyone even thinks about mentioning FRM sleeves as a weakness, the TRUE achilles' heel of honda motors has always been the piston/rings.

so to answer the question at hand, yes you can turbo, supercharge, NOS, twincharge, or whatever you want as long as the compression test / leakdown come back well. something that should be mentioned thats often neglected in the rest of the FI-honda world is that the S2000 has a rear diff. when increasing the power output, you are increasing the stress on the pumpkin. so when you're increasing power, you should be thinking about supporting mods to put all that power down reliably.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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damn that sounded so good reading it in my head lol thanks, and are you turboed, S/C'D? it was a guy around here in birmingham with a turbo and superchager set up on his ap1, it was so big he had to use hood spacers, but all in all it wasnt as fast as just single charging it
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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It really depends on what you are trying to achieve. If its drag racing, go for a turbo. If you want to do circuit racing, go with all motor, or a supercharger. The Greddy kit is not worth the money by the way. If you want to go turbo, custom is great or even go with InlinePro's kit. But driving my S2000 for 3 years, I believe all motor is the best route for the s2000 since the engine is powerful as stock.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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i agree with the post by t1rs2k for the most part, i wouldn't count a turbo setup out for circuit racing though. If the issue is "lag", simply get a smaller turbo such as a GT28 dual bb turbo. that will still support more than most superchargers and N/A setups with minimal lag time. and if that spool is still too slow, there are more turbos out there. and no i don't have a turbo s2k, yet.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ivtecnfg2
sorry that you read the thread and had to say "why ask the question if you kno the motor?, know that u have ask'd that question, i have one for you, are you familiar with hondata? even hondata are having a hard time tuning the 8th gen civics and trust me i think they know the motor so therefore just because you know a motor doesnt mean you know everthing capatable with it, and if i knew the whole motor i would be on here asking ?'s still and even the wizards(not me) ask questions, and if someone on here is not actually a newb and want to kno the same ? i askd, lets put in a scenario, lets say a used ap1 with 100k+ miles on it, being turboed with a great tune, but im assuming the guy above was confused wen i said how long will a good tune last, im assuming he's never heard of wear and tear, well along the lines of a tuned turboed ap1 with the miles stated earlier will eventaully wear off due to stock internals and the motor being in the 100+ range, im guessing here, now its time to dig into the motor and get low compression pistons and rods, maybe even retainers due to the exsecive 8.9k 0r 9k+ redline with hondata(dont know if the ap1 uses k-pro or s300) on the ap1.
on the other hand a tune will not last as long as the motor, due to different driving styles(you have beaters and repectful drivers) and i dont care how good of a tune you have the motor will not last if your flooring it everytime a m3 or so pulls up on the side of you, and i kno some one here is going to say hey racing on the street is stupid but after a while you get used to a couple of freeway pulls and such. but i apologize for those who feel they have to rant in this thread. and to sandiegan i was thinking comptech i was on s2ki lurking and it was the most talk'd abot FI on the forum. thanks
You dont under stand that every set up is different. I could run 750CC injectors with with stock head gasket or I could get 550CC injectors with a 2mm head gasket and run the same boost. Why dont you explain to me why this is possible and what would be safer on the motor. I have given you examples and help and you ignore them. If I didnt know what I was talking about I wouldnt be wasting my time helping you. I also KNOW you arn't ready for a turbo S2000 by the questions you ask and the responses you give.

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i agree with the post by t1rs2k for the most part, i wouldn't count a turbo setup out for circuit racing though. If the issue is "lag", simply get a smaller turbo such as a GT28 dual bb turbo. that will still support more than most superchargers and N/A setups with minimal lag time. and if that spool is still too slow, there are more turbos out there. and no i don't have a turbo s2k, yet.
The co owner of Gt motoring drives a built GT35R for a circuit car....


Originally Posted by t1rs2k
It really depends on what you are trying to achieve. If its drag racing, go for a turbo. If you want to do circuit racing, go with all motor, or a supercharger. The Greddy kit is not worth the money by the way. If you want to go turbo, custom is great or even go with InlinePro's kit. But driving my S2000 for 3 years, I believe all motor is the best route for the s2000 since the engine is powerful as stock.
Putting down 200 horse is power full? Car is slower then ***** until you get over 300.


Originally Posted by dagle
as mentioned, the forged internals equate to almost no wear/tear
the timing chain equates to no belt breakage
and before anyone even thinks about mentioning FRM sleeves as a weakness, the TRUE achilles' heel of honda motors has always been the piston/rings.

so to answer the question at hand, yes you can turbo, supercharge, NOS, twincharge, or whatever you want as long as the compression test / leakdown come back well. something that should be mentioned thats often neglected in the rest of the FI-honda world is that the S2000 has a rear diff. when increasing the power output, you are increasing the stress on the pumpkin. so when you're increasing power, you should be thinking about supporting mods to put all that power down reliably.
Originally Posted by dagle
i agree with the post by t1rs2k for the most part, i wouldn't count a turbo setup out for circuit racing though. If the issue is "lag", simply get a smaller turbo such as a GT28 dual bb turbo. that will still support more than most superchargers and N/A setups with minimal lag time. and if that spool is still too slow, there are more turbos out there. and no i don't have a turbo s2k, yet.
I agree 100%, GT28 aka the disco potato is a great turbo. You can put down power and have good response.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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[QUOTE=HondaKyle] You dont under stand that every set up is different. I could run 750CC injectors with with stock head gasket or I could get 550CC injectors with a 2mm head gasket and run the same boost. Why dont you explain to me why this is possible and what would be safer on the motor. I have given you examples and help and you ignore them. If I didnt know what I was talking about I wouldnt be wasting my time helping you. I also KNOW you arn't ready for a turbo S2000 by the questions you ask and the responses you give.

how did i ignore? how could you say i am not ready for a turbo just by asking words? i havent even bought a turbo for the car, but im not trying to start an argument, but back 2001 i had an em1 1.7L SOHC d17 turbo'd which when i bought it had 43 miles on it and after saving a year i installed a greddy turbo on it myself and it was tuned by MOTORVATIONS motor sports, im not arguing about what you told me i just wanted my ? answered in the best way possible, which you did with an sarcastic reply, how am i supposed to litsen and i take that we both are grown so lets talk like we are? i have no problem with you . and to t1rs2k, i really dont favor the allmotor setup anymore i had a b16 swapped crx allmotor on a 35 shot which i bought from a friend and didnt like it compared to my turbo'd civic. but the s2k is just for personal pleasure like driving to work and taking it to the track when i get a chance it proly is 1nce every 2months or so, but back to KYLE i guess your right about turbo'd cars and miles, a guy with a gsr in a hatch had his turbo for 3 years, and a guy with a 240sx had his for 2 1/2 yrs. they guy with the 240 said it was all in the tune which he heard from the tuner.


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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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I won't say that you are not ready for a turbo s2k. But by starting this thread and judging by your opening question its not a good idea...

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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ivtecnfg2
I just wanted to know is 56k worth of miles ok to run maybe a greddy kit on?,,, btw how many miles can you go before you boost a s2k the most ive seen is a guy with a b16 with a greddy kit with 96k worth of miles on it.
To answer: 56k has nothing to do with putting a turbo kit on, and the word "OK" is subjective.

The wording "how many miles can you go before you boost" is also incorrect as well.

Installing a turbo has a lot more to do with the ENGINE (not motor) as oppose to mileage.

I agree with everyone else in this thread by saying 1 enjoy the car as is first, then decide on a turbo..and 2. You're not ready for it if you're asking this question.

On a side note, the s2000 kicks *** the way it comes from the factory. You'll probably enjoy the car more if you did suspension work first. The s2000 is probably one of the best, if not the best, driving cars i've owned/driven.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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kaboroo and the rest i understand were your coming from, but keep in mind i had a greddy turbocharged em1, which when i turboed it had 4,5.. some miles on it which the car never reached break in period. i bought it off of sportcompact only thats when the jdm style civics were'nt even in BTW that had nuthing to do with what we are talking about. i was asking out of curiosity about the miles and i did my research on the compression and leak down test, but judging from outside the box alot of ppl do seem to have alot of fun with their s2k of the lot with basic parts such as basic exhaust, intake and suspension and believe me when i lowered my b16 powere rex i loved that thing so i think the suspension will occupy me until i really make my mind up about the FI situation. and to you who are curious im 19yrs old and i had my first boosted civic bak in 2001 , now im rolling in a 2007 fg1 so sorry men for the stirrup and to hondakyle i appreciate you, ill be sure to take pics if decide to get it, 1 more thing MOD if you would lock or delete this thread
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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glad I could help... check out the Fi thread on S2ki. posts some pics of the S2000 when you get one.
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