hey there,
Im new to the forums and new to hondas. I have a 96 accord 2.2L non vtech. Im looking for some ideas for perfomance. I really dont know much about import performance. I am a mechanic so I know my fair share about cars. Im looking to beef this car up and get some speed out of it. If anyone would like to help me out it would be appreciated thanks.

 

Ive also read through a bunch of different posts and websites and havent found anything really too good. Just to make it clear that im not trying to just get everything handed to me. I have done tons of research bought performance magazines, books etc. Just looking for hands on opinions and ideas. Thanks

 

chances are you'll be told that you can do the basics like intake, header and exhaust, but the only way to get any real power is going to be to beef up the internals and boost it or swap it.

 

What are your goals?
What type of performance are you lookign for?
Power, handling or a bit of both.
What do you want to do with the car?
Daily driver with the occasional weekend at the track or an all out race setup?

Once you know what your going to do with the car you can decide if you want to go Forced Induction or Naturally Aspirated. A big sloppy high HP turbo isn't going to do shyte on a twisty street course. And a small bore N/A air sucker isn't going to get you down the 1/4 under 14s. Once you decide what you want from your car you can start looking for specific parts.

 

It all depends on yer budget. Small budgets like myself go with an I/H/E setup with some ignition upgrades (wires and plugs). For those with half decent budgets (2000 - 5000) usually go for the swap (H22 or F20b) or boost or possible rebuild, (forged pistons and rods, shaved head). For the bigger budgets, maybe combining some of the previous, or if you really wanna go big (my dream swap) go with the k24 from a newer accord topped with the head from a RSX-S or civic Si and either build it up or supercharge it.


But that's just my two cents, I am sure you will make the right decision.

 

My goal is to have both. I want it to be able to race at the same time drive it as a daily driver but even as a daily driver i push my car to its limits. I just have a need to go faster and be able to beat my buddies that have hondas. I would like to get as much speed and horsepower as possible but not anything crazy where i would have to make it track only. Im into street racing more than on the track. My budget isnt too big either.
Another thing my car is an automatic which i hope wont take away and speed or HP

 

Well then 1slow02 is right....

Headers/ full exhaust
Intake
Ignition system
Cams
Fuel Injectors

And your also workin with and F22 non vtec.. My homie had one, it was cool but not fast enough.. You needa upgrade to a vtec to get the performance your lookin for!! ;-)

 

Why does he need VTEC? Are we talking DOHC H or SOHC F VTEC?

 

My engine is a F22B2 non vtech. I want as much horsepower and speed as possible with this engine. How about a head swap? Ive heard that would do some justice but i really don't know.

 

9:1 pistons and a 10-12psi turbo I guess. That seems to be the best bang for your buck and easiest way to go.

 

How much are we looking at here price wise? And what about a head swap to a vtec?

 

3K and you could brobably do it right.

VTEC head doesn't flow that much better than the Non VTEC if your looking at going with boost.

 

One of the things you're going to run into for a swap to a VTEC head, you have to either swap in the correct engine harness and ECM, or you have to Mickey Mouse your own control system. On top of that, you have to make provisions to modify the engine's lubrication system to accomodate the VTEC activation system as well.

You have to make a choice, full out competition or a daily driver. The two venues are not mutually compatible as far as reliability is concerned.
And as far as the argument of all motor as opposed to boosted; pick one - not both.
I've seen more than a few full house H22's grenade when they attempted to boost (or spray) a high compression "all motor".
A low compression F22 on 8-10 psi boost will live quite nicely at 200+ HP.

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Ok considering I have to make a choice it will be straight performance car. Bare in mind my budget isnt too healthy. I am getting a truck for a daily driver and want to keep this car as a weekend racer so to speak. So low budget racer is my goal whats everyones opinion on where i should start and where i should finish. I want the most bang for my buck as does everyone.

Just want to say thanks for helping me out with this im a virgin when it comes to honda performance.


Modified by CJtech525 at 8:47 AM 11/9/2008

 

wanting to do pretty much the exact same thing, same car i think, '96 accord sedan, non-vtech, automatic but i have some exterior probs that need fixin first. if anyone has any advice for CJtech, please keep me in mind as well

 

any other advice from anyone?

thanks

 

Racecar?

Strip, turbo (depending on your class), weld in a cage

 

I had a 97 LX (non-vtec) decked the head, I/H-full exhaust, lightweight flywheel, upgraded clutch. Swapped for a F22 vtec motor, the vtec motor with the flywheel, clutch, I/H-full exhaust was absolutely no better then the non vtec motor... The original non vtec motor pulled way better on the bottom end... Kevin

 

So does anyone think the headswap would be worth it or should i keep the one i already have (F22B2) What would get me more power. ANd i know i have to change the harness and everything.

 

I wouldn't do it. Be careful not to turn it to hard, main bearings are a week point in the F-series motors.

 

Since you're asking the same questions over and over.

Please search, Red one up in the top right and choose archived search.

Accord FAQ as well

 

That's the first time I've heard this about the Fs. When and under what type of conditions do they fail? Stock, Forced Induction, High RPM N/A.....???

OP,

If your going boost for your weekend warrior keep the F22B2 head..... If your going N/A you may want to look into an earlier F22A head.... A6 or 4. I'm not 100% witch one it is but one of them flows better than the DOHC H.

I'm going with the "run what I brung" adage with my setup...F22B2 all the way!...lol

 

Actually, I've heard just the opposite. F22bx's have stronger bottom ends and cylinder liners than the much vaulted H22's. The head isn't much to write home about (stock) but there's always hope in that regard.

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