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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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Can someone tell me what this is called, also do I need all four? cause I only have two....




Also is there something missing here a sliver ring or something... and is this one the front right.


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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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I did search......
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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My GC sleeves have a black polyurethane ring inside of that inner lip.

I have no clue what that red ring is. Mine didn't come with any.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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I see that your coil is small, so I am assuming it is for the rear shocks. That ring you got is to "hold" the helper spring (keeps the coil snug and in position when you jack the car up). I have just two. This is my rear shock set-up:



Front:


On your konis, you are suppose to have metals clips. So, you just slide over your sleeves over the shocks. The clips holds the sleeve in place.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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ok<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaak-crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see that your coil is small, so I am assuming it is for the rear shocks. That ring you got is to "hold" the helper spring (keeps the coil snug and in position when you jack the car up). I have just two. This is my rear shock set-up:


Front:


On your konis, you are suppose to have metals clips. So, you just slide over your sleeves over the shocks. The clips holds the sleeve in place.</TD></TR></TABLE>

OKay I see that it's for a helper spring that's all... okay I understand...... now my next queation which ones are for the front and which one are for the back.... I know the smaller springs go in the front and the bigger in the back... I mean as far as the coil it self...... okay in the pic is that the rear or the front....
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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What is important is that you put the stiffer rates in the back.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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You havnt told us the most important part. What type of car are these for? That would help a bunch
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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this is not a standard kit for any honda. can you please tell us where you got this kit? how was it described?

the ring you showed is for the secondary help/tender spring. do you have those?

it looks like the threaded sleeve was made for koni yellow shocks only. however its really short, and so is the spring.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myprotege &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You havnt told us the most important part. What type of car are these for? That would help a bunch </TD></TR></TABLE>

Del sol...
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is not a standard kit for any honda. can you please tell us where you got this kit? how was it described?

the ring you showed is for the secondary help/tender spring. do you have those?

it looks like the threaded sleeve was made for koni yellow shocks only. however its really short, and so is the spring.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I bought them used, the person I bought them from told me that they came off his car... which had stock shocks. and the car was a 95 integra

And I don't have the help/tender spring. do I need that?
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Whats the spring part numbers that are on your coils? From what it looks like, you have nothing even close to what you need for your car, better luck selling them and buying an application that fits your car.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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you really dont need the tender spring. theyre actually pretty expensive and its a lot of thought and trial and error to get the right dual spring rate. so i recommend just buying a pair of longer 7-8" springs of your spring rate choice.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myprotege &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whats the spring part numbers that are on your coils? From what it looks like, you have nothing even close to what you need for your car, better luck selling them and buying an application that fits your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
front GC 150.64.66
back GC 125.64.75
thay seem really small both front and back....
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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really small..... this is the front next too a blue pen


And these are the rear......
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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"spring perches" for the helper/tender springs - as answered above.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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you got the wrong kit for a del sol.

they COULD have fit on an integra, but not really. and not without the tender spring on the short 5" one.

either way, youll be better off with the right kit. thos sleeves are too short too.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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those are for an rsx or newer civic.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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those are for an rsx or newer civic.
that makes more sense.
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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thanx alot guys,
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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I new there was something wrong.. thanx for clearing that up for me.......
how can I tell what car is it for?
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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I brought them off a honda-tech member "bleedblue94" he told me there came off a eg civic not integra sorry about that ......... but if they came off a eg they should fit my car...
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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I would contact Ground Control Suspensions System and explain your situation. They should be able to help you with that.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by blaak-crx
I would contact Ground Control Suspensions System and explain your situation. They should be able to help you with that.
thanx I'm going to try that...
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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"spring perches" for the helper/tender springs - as answered above.
They're called spring couplers. The perches are the gold-colored pieces that thread onto the sleeves.

Originally Posted by blaak-crx
I would contact Ground Control Suspensions System and explain your situation. They should be able to help you with that.
It's going to cost him though. He is going to have to buy more springs (either longer main springs, or a set of helper springs) because the 6" and 5" springs he has are too short for a del Sol.
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