OK, I have a 09 FA5 and was thinking about forced induction (turbocharger). My ? is how much boost is our K20 able to handle? What parts need upgrading when turbocharging? Anything maintenance-wise that would change?

Thanx

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLICK_iVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK, I have a 09 FA5 and was thinking about forced induction (turbocharger). My ? is how much boost is our K20 able to handle? What parts need upgrading when turbocharging? Anything maintenance-wise that would change?

Thanx</TD></TR></TABLE>

The '09s were upgraded (I swear) so the k20z3 can handle 44 lbs of boost without any internal mods now. Good luck!

 

lol. not sure the reasoning behind fiji's misleading info. but it made me chuckle.

nice avatar op. lulz.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2355314

 

^ and he's running peak 21.5 psi fully built!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIVIC 3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol. not sure the reasoning behind fiji's misleading info. but it made me chuckle.

nice avatar op. lulz.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because the guy isn't gonna turbo his '09 Si. If he was serious, he'd already know the answer to that ish. I'm sick of these "planning on twin turbo-ing (plus a supercharger) my car and putting full coilovers, a roll cage, jdm conversion, blah blah, etc threads. Two years down the road, the people that start these threads have little more than an intake. Almost all of us have thought (more appropriate word would be dreamt) about the turbo route in one capacity or another, but the minority have actually done it.

OP, don't be so lazy. Do your own damn research. How do you think any of us got the information that could potentially answer your question?

 

^Tis true. If the OP was serious about going with a turbo, he would do some serious research on the subject.

 

his avatar is begging for a photochop.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIVIC 3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">his avatar is begging for a photochop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I was any good at that stuff, I'd be on it, but I fail at photo editing.

 

LMAO! First off, I do my own ****. I'm not one of these punk *** fools to talk about doing **** but never do it. I DON'T have an intake, as a matter of fact I'm bone stock. Second off, I AM doing a turbo setup, SO DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. Third off, [freak] what you gotta say. I've already got the info that I need and I found it last night 15 minutes after posting this thread. Unlike you're lifeless *** who has absolutely nothing better to do besides be a complete [freak]-off in life and instead of helping others decides to talk **** and lead others astray just for you're own pleasure of being the useless piece of **** that you are, I have a life... and for this very reason did not try and spend all my time finding out how to delete this thread when I could be using the time for something I needed to accomplish. Fourth off.. you don't know me, so don't talk to me like you do. And to answer your "rhetorical" question, you get information from people who know about the subject at hand, whether it be by forum, web page, booklet, person to person, what be it... and have had more experience in that subject than you and let them educate you on the topic until it sufficiently answers your question or by tinkering with the object to learn about it. I'm not a rich *** fool who has the money to throw around and buy a turbo and a new engine on a brand new $23,000 car. Everyone has been and always will be in this stage in life and everyone learns info in this way... If you're sick of these threads about people not knowing how to do this and that when they're simply trying to learn and get some info from people who know quite a bit on the topic at hand and are sick of the people who say they're gonna mod out their cars but simply never do... CRY ME A RIVER, SHUT THE [freak] UP AND GET UR LITTLE IMMATURE *** OVER IT! People have and always will say they're going to do ****..... but guess what, **** HAPPENS! Maybe they're budget can't afford it at the moment. Maybe they got laid off. There are many times in many peoples' lives, including YOURS, that **** just comes up and the things we intended on doing aren't possible for us anymore at least for the near future. And don't sit here and act like a know-it-all. There are things we know about and there are things that we don't know about. NO ONE WAS BORN WITH THE WORLD'S KNOWLEDGE. So grow the [freak] up.

:D I'm done LOL. Glad thats off my cyber chest. :D

Oh, by the way, go ahead and feel free to reply using all you're might, which I know you will... I don't have time to fight back and forth a thread.

I'M OFF TO ABSORB MORE KNOWLEDGE!!!

ALRATOz

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLICK_iVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LMAO! First off, I do my own ****. I'm not one of these punk *** fools to talk about doing **** but never do it. I DON'T have an intake, as a matter of fact I'm bone stock. Second off, I AM doing a turbo setup, SO DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. Third off, [freak] what you gotta say. I've already got the info that I need and I found it last night 15 minutes after posting this thread. Unlike you're lifeless *** who has absolutely nothing better to do besides be a complete [freak]-off in life and instead of helping others decides to talk **** and lead others astray just for you're own pleasure of being the useless piece of **** that you are, I have a life... and for this very reason did not try and spend all my time finding out how to delete this thread when I could be using the time for something I needed to accomplish. Fourth off.. you don't know me, so don't talk to me like you do. And to answer your "rhetorical" question, you get information from people who know about the subject at hand, whether it be by forum, web page, booklet, person to person, what be it... and have had more experience in that subject than you and let them educate you on the topic until it sufficiently answers your question or by tinkering with the object to learn about it. I'm not a rich *** fool who has the money to throw around and buy a turbo and a new engine on a brand new $23,000 car. Everyone has been and always will be in this stage in life and everyone learns info in this way... If you're sick of these threads about people not knowing how to do this and that when they're simply trying to learn and get some info from people who know quite a bit on the topic at hand and are sick of the people who say they're gonna mod out their cars but simply never do... CRY ME A RIVER, SHUT THE [freak] UP AND GET UR LITTLE IMMATURE *** OVER IT! People have and always will say they're going to do ****..... but guess what, **** HAPPENS! Maybe they're budget can't afford it at the moment. Maybe they got laid off. There are many times in many peoples' lives, including YOURS, that **** just comes up and the things we intended on doing aren't possible for us anymore at least for the near future. And don't sit here and act like a know-it-all. There are things we know about and there are things that we don't know about. NO ONE WAS BORN WITH THE WORLD'S KNOWLEDGE. So grow the [freak] up.

:D I'm done LOL. Glad thats off my cyber chest. :D

Oh, by the way, go ahead and feel free to reply using all you're might, which I know you will... I don't have time to fight back and forth a thread.

I'M OFF TO ABSORB MORE KNOWLEDGE!!!

ALRATOz</TD></TR></TABLE>

fiji was just being an *** because like me i get tired of these threads. there's a new "turbo" thread at least once a week with the same questions. Then after we answer the same ol questions the OP's of those threads never come back posting threads of a finished turbo setup. it hardly happens.

I gotta admit when i first came onto this board years back i had a couple "newb" type threads like this and got some of the same reactions. I figured that i don't need to put myself out there anymore and just researched on my own. And when i did build my turbo setups i just posted the finished products....not what i "dreamt".

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLICK_iVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LMAO! First off, I do my own ****. I'm not one of these punk *** fools to talk about doing **** but never do it. I DON'T have an intake, as a matter of fact I'm bone stock. Second off, I AM doing a turbo setup, SO DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. Third off, [freak] what you gotta say. I've already got the info that I need and I found it last night 15 minutes after posting this thread. Unlike you're lifeless *** who has absolutely nothing better to do besides be a complete [freak]-off in life and instead of helping others decides to talk **** and lead others astray just for you're own pleasure of being the useless piece of **** that you are, I have a life... and for this very reason did not try and spend all my time finding out how to delete this thread when I could be using the time for something I needed to accomplish. Fourth off.. you don't know me, so don't talk to me like you do. And to answer your "rhetorical" question, you get information from people who know about the subject at hand, whether it be by forum, web page, booklet, person to person, what be it... and have had more experience in that subject than you and let them educate you on the topic until it sufficiently answers your question or by tinkering with the object to learn about it. I'm not a rich *** fool who has the money to throw around and buy a turbo and a new engine on a brand new $23,000 car. Everyone has been and always will be in this stage in life and everyone learns info in this way... If you're sick of these threads about people not knowing how to do this and that when they're simply trying to learn and get some info from people who know quite a bit on the topic at hand and are sick of the people who say they're gonna mod out their cars but simply never do... CRY ME A RIVER, SHUT THE [freak] UP AND GET UR LITTLE IMMATURE *** OVER IT! People have and always will say they're going to do ****..... but guess what, **** HAPPENS! Maybe they're budget can't afford it at the moment. Maybe they got laid off. There are many times in many peoples' lives, including YOURS, that **** just comes up and the things we intended on doing aren't possible for us anymore at least for the near future. And don't sit here and act like a know-it-all. There are things we know about and there are things that we don't know about. NO ONE WAS BORN WITH THE WORLD'S KNOWLEDGE. So grow the [freak] up.

:D I'm done LOL. Glad thats off my cyber chest. :D

Oh, by the way, go ahead and feel free to reply using all you're might, which I know you will... I don't have time to fight back and forth a thread.

I'M OFF TO ABSORB MORE KNOWLEDGE!!!

ALRATOz</TD></TR></TABLE>

GOD DAMN.

i want to hear what 2008fijibluesi has to say about that.

 

 

I'm kinda in the OP's corner here. This is a tech thread and he asked a tech-related question. Big deal. Let the guy live.

Fijiblue has something to say to everyone and will typically post a smart-*** comment in most threads posted, which means he sits around and waits for people to hate on. Get over yourself bro.

 

no need for the op to come back and talk all that **** though. he could of shown he was the bigger man by shrugging it off or at most a "one liner". but, that whole post was ridiculous.

 

Im suprised noone said this yet

[B]SEARCH[B]

If you would of used this feature you would have noticed that there are 100000 threads stating the same question on here. O btw y dont you enlighten us on some of the things that you learned.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLICK_iVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... CRY ME A RIVER, SHUT THE **** UP AND GET UR LITTLE IMMATURE *** OVER IT! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Should listen to your own advice.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Greg50Lt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

<U><FONT COLOR="red">SEARCH</FONT></U>

If you would have used this feature you would have noticed that there are 100000 threads stating the same question on here. O btw y dont you enlighten us on some of the things that you learned.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Also, try the forced induction forum.

 

If his avatar is any indication the OP doesn't even own the 09 FA5 in question. The grill in the pic is a dead give away. At least it's not 09. With the users age and type of question asked here in I doubt he owns an Si at all.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLICK_iVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I'm not a rich *** fool who has the money to throw around and buy a turbo and a new engine on a brand new $23,000 car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLICK_iVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK, I have a 09 FA5 and was thinking about forced induction (turbocharger). My ? is how much boost is our K20 able to handle? What parts need upgrading when turbocharging? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You aren't a fool to want to mod your daily driver to such an extent as to ask the question of how much boost it can handle?

If you aren't some rich fool why don't you pay down the car note considering the state of the economy, that would be the smarter thing to do.

The real question is how much detonation can the K20Z3 handle before holes start getting poked into engine components or start melting?

14.7 PSI only raises rod load by 20%. You begin to make so much power that traction, axle strength, and clutch holding power become an issue.

I would assume your new FA5 is what keeps you going to work, that job is what's paying the bills. Now imagine for a moment you boost the motor to it's breaking point and now you aint got no ridez to wizerk, how you be goin to pay dat carz notez?

Been there, done that, got the repo to go with it.

Do typical bolt on's and find a project car to build upon.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k20roadrage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm kinda in the OP's corner here. This is a tech thread and he asked a tech-related question. Big deal. Let the guy live.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then why not just ask "How much can the K20Z3 handle?" instead of adding all that useless info. I would have taken the topic seriously if he hadn't add all that other crap. The OP is a window shopper day dreaming.


Modified by Kidnkorner at 4:40 PM 11/4/2008

 

What happened to this forum? It seems like every other thread ends up as a bitch session? Man I miss Type-X, it seems now as if no one is monitoring this site anymore.

I got to tell you, the last time I showed my car, there were many people talking about how this site has gone down hill. To many people complaining about others and hardly every any real "tech" information anymore.

To the OP, assuming you have an SI, the motor is built pretty strong. Balanced to 10,000 rpm and over engineered sleeving. The rods on the other hand are not engineering to that level. Your safe to about 5psi if your kicking in the turbo all the time. If it's a once in a while deal, 9psi to 12psi. However, your clutch is not rated for that level of torque and you put your valve train at risk for much over 8,500 rpm.

I think Greddy is the only company out with a turbo that has been on the market for a while. The biggest challange the tuners are having now is fuel tuning.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChargedSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What happened to this forum? It seems like every other thread ends up as a bitch session? Man I miss Type-X, it seems now as if no one is monitoring this site anymore.

I got to tell you, the last time I showed my car, there were many people talking about how this site has gone down hill. To many people complaining about others and hardly every any real "tech" information anymore.

To the OP, assuming you have an SI, the motor is built pretty strong. Balanced to 10,000 rpm and over engineered sleeving. The rods on the other hand are not engineering to that level. Your safe to about 5psi if your kicking in the turbo all the time. If it's a once in a while deal, 9psi to 12psi. However, your clutch is not rated for that level of torque and you put your valve train at risk for much over 8,500 rpm.

I think Greddy is the only company out with a turbo that has been on the market for a while. The biggest challange the tuners are having now is fuel tuning.

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I'm not really getting what you are saying here. Are you saying that the rods will fold from the boost pressure created from a system pushing that much? I didn't know boost would fold a rod at least not that low of a psi. You don't think the stock rods could handle a 20% increase in load? Last I looked Honda wasn't using cast iron rods.

With the statement of the fuel tuning I know the GReddy emanage ultimate can do a remarkable job with that task though stand alone would be a better choice. But for the whiners who don't want to wait for plug and play a dual ecu set up wouldn't be very hard for someone who is well versed in wiring/wiring diagrams.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChargedSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;What happened to this forum? It seems like every other thread ends up as a bitch session? Man I miss Type-X, it seems now as if no one is monitoring this site anymore.&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;

I got to tell you, the last time I showed my car, there were many people talking about how this site has gone down hill. To many people complaining about others and hardly every any real "tech" information anymore.

To the OP, assuming you have an SI, the motor is built pretty strong. Balanced to 10,000 rpm and over engineered sleeving. The rods on the other hand are not engineering to that level. Your safe to about 5psi if your kicking in the turbo all the time. If it's a once in a while deal, 9psi to 12psi. However, your clutch is not rated for that level of torque and you put your valve train at risk for much over 8,500 rpm.

I think Greddy is the only company out with a turbo that has been on the market for a while. The biggest challange the tuners are having now is fuel tuning.

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ITs cuz our mod built hatch is always in the mazda speed forum. I seen a couple posts from him.

Not that im stalking him but I just got a speed 3 and see him around.


ON another note, this thread is full of fail.

He was so smart but never tried the search button, yes fiji is sometimes a jerk but he is justified. Every person who buys a new SI asks this question. I asked it and got my *** chewed out then booted for cussing back. If I was a mod id put a big *** USE THE SEARCH BUTTON in red on the front page.

Then the OP wants to boost his new SI to the max which is dumb. Then he goes on to write a page saying he has no time to argue in a thread? Saying how hes broke but he wants to boost.

Fa fa fa fail



Every smart thing he said he contradicted him self a couple lines after.

fa fa fa fa fail

But ive seen that dude on the 8th, I think he had a fg1 and got an SI. Otherwise hed still be back at the ocho.





Modified by 100miles+ at 3:41 PM 11/4/2008

 

 

Wow Lil Bow Wow...feel better now?

Quit that job at McDonald's and go get your GED. You missing the 9th grade to live the thug life really did some damage.

I'm an ******* when it is justified, and I'm helpful when it's needed. From the majority of the other responses in this thread, I'd say most agree I was justified. When someone asks an obscure question that isn't often asked, I'll help them and lead them in the right direction. But simply searching, whether it be on this site, or on google (which will probably lead you here, 8th or k20) will provide infinite threads to browse through and help you blow your turbo load. Afterall, the search link does appear in red, making it tough to miss.

I have a life, and I don't know it all. I've never claimed to. For instance, I don't know if aliens exist or if Elvis is really dead, or if you were born with a 3rd nut. I also don't know what I'm gonna have for dinner tomorrow, or what costume I'll wear for Halloween next year. What I do know is that you are a fraud. I don't need to know you any better than I already do to know that. You're a fake a$$ wanna-be thug with dreams of turbo jizz all over your face. You say "I'm not one of these punk *** fools to talk about doing **** but never do it...I AM doing a turbo setup..." but contradict yourself with "I'm not a rich *** fool who has the money to throw around and buy a turbo and a new engine on a brand new $23,000 car". You don't have the money so it's just a wet dream.

I've learned quite a bit from this site (and the internet in general), but I learned the majority of what I know from hands-on experience years before ever finding this sit. Does that make me better than you? NO. But searching on this site can usually answer a question very quickly. Also, just sitting back and reading through threads can provide mountains of information.

Go ahead and let your gym towel absorb that "turbo knowledge".

 

I seam to remember some guy posting a SICK turbo'd FA5 from some shop in MD. That thing was ill. Anyone remember that?

As for Fiji, you should start a blog and stop using Honda-Tech as one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k20roadrage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

As for Fiji, you should start a blog and stop using Honda-Tech as one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude get off my back. You have it out for me just because I put you in your place on some thread months ago. Post something with substance for once, rather than just stalking me and crying. Additionally, my post was an introduction compared to the OP's incomprehensible rant. Get off his ****.