so The car ran with the bad gasket and i ended up getting a new one.

Once i installed it and tried starting it it wont start up.

it gets feul, spark and compression with a weak battery is
1-170, 2-165, 3-130, 4-170

Freind says timing is good bit I will check it later. The car cranks fine, working on getting a good battery.

So would the comp. like that not make the car start up, I mean the comp in #3 is not perfect but could it be that bad that it wont start up.

Or would push starting it actually start it up


thx in advance for help guys

 

Check your firing order first off. Most common issue with that first start up . After that, double check your cam timing, as well as any wires you may have missed during installation. You also may have to tap the gas a little to get it going

 

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well i checked the firing order twice and it was good, checked it with another b16 also.

I will check the cam timing soon.

Im pretty sure I didnt miss any wires because I checked a bunch of times over and over.

The gas comes out of the injectors fine and the fuel pump pumps good(checked this)

it gets spark, feul, comp is good, It can only be the timing I guess

 

At this point all I would say is the timing which you stated already, also double check your grounds (assuming you removed one) and hopefully you have some luck.

Good luck

 

thx, well i get spark so ground has to be good, and i also added another ground on the engine just incase

 

redid the timing, but now it starts up and blows black smoke out and idles at 5k though

 

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the motor could be burning off leftover crap....but check for any vac leaks...you could of plugged in your sensors wrong and check ur tb sensor and map sensor....check ur ignition timing...and if the idle dies down re check ur compression because they should all be within 20% of one another...and also check for any leaks

 

well this car has been [freak]ed with alot of times so I dont know what could be wrong with it.

I am going to see if i can get a stock intake and put it on

btw the charcoal canister is not hooked up either

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v8killaz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well this car has been [freak]ed with alot of times so I dont know what could be wrong with it.

I am going to see if i can get a stock intake and put it on

btw the charcoal canister is not hooked up either</TD></TR></TABLE>


check if you have everything hooked up right? im sure you have a vac leak somewhere...and the charcoal canister shouldnt affect it...im running without one...check to see if your tb cable is sticky....and make sure your tb is closed when at idle

 

well i guess nobody else sees a problem with that 130 on cylinder number 3 but i do thats 40 lower than the other cylinders which is not good. when you replaced the gasket did you check the head and block for flatness. if you didnt well y not because you are supposed to. also if you had a vac leak you idle whould be through the roof and your car whould still start i whould say check your work and youll find the problem.

 

yeah ill go though it again, sucks that i finally get it running and now i got a new problem

 

kronikSLOW is right. you need to check if the head has any warpage, or if the block has any cracks.
If you dont see anything you gonna need some new piston rings at the very least.

 

one thing. the piston number 3 could be bad. but fyi if the car did not start at that point it could of resulted of bad timing. when timing is off your compression will also be off....a bad piston will not result in bad idleing cuz if that was the case then it would of had occured before he changed the hg. make sure you did your compression right and again double check everything..as far as i know a piston would not affect your idle

 

yeah of course i know a piston wouldnt control idle

Im pretty sure its a intake leak or disconnected valve

 

You mentioned black smoke coming out of the exhaust. is it still doing that?
If so you blew more than a cracked head gasket. you might have blew a crack in the block,cylinder head, and/or warped the head which would be the vaccum leak you guys are talkin about.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stickyicky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You mentioned black smoke coming out of the exhaust. is it still doing that?
If so you blew more than a cracked head gasket. you might have blew a crack in the block,cylinder head, and/or warped the head which would be the vaccum leak you guys are talkin about.</TD></TR></TABLE>


if the head was warped then he should see it leaking when the car is on

 

True, he might be able to see the leak might not.
He might just have some blow-by and just need some new piston rings at the least.

 

well i did A piston ring test, and btw this is my freinds car but im working on it for him to get it running
so half the **** i dont know about the car pisses me off

I did a comp test in no2 piston and it came up as 130, I then put oil in the cylinder and the comp came up as 155
so my guess is the rings are gone

 

question...what did you put oil in the cylinder for?

 

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Called a wet test. Is used to see if the rings are bad.

OP: Did you allow the car to warm up before doing the test?

Good write up:
http://www.team-integra.net/se...=1086

 

oohhhh...never heard of it

 

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take it to the shop

 

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take it to the shop </TD></TR></TABLE>

Apparently another person who has nothing to do with the op should take his car with no known problems to the shop?

 

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Apparently another person who has nothing to do with the op should take his car with no known problems to the shop?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i guess huh

 

no i didnt let the car warm up because it didnt start at that time.

Ur comment below made no sense to me