setup

head
-bone stock
-no upgrade valve train no porting
-stock cams

block
-mahle pistons
-eagle rods
-acl bearings

turbo setup
-ebay kit with t3/t4 .57 trim
-daily driven on open downpipe

fuel management
-1200cc rc
-stock fuel rail
-stock fuel pressure regulator
-stock fuel filter
-walbro 255lph fuel pump
-hondata s200b

tires
-kumho v10

On 91 octane the car blows 1st through 4th gear if the tires need heated up
once s it heated up u can get traction in 4th
this is with 91 octane pump gas with only 9.4lbs of boost...........

On methanol it blows tires on 5th gear at around 3700 rpm
thats 5th gear punching it at 2500 rpm
datalog shows 9.4 psi at 3300 rpm!
this is still with 9.4lbs of boost and same v10 tires (18 psi tire pressure)

What should we do?
we want to street tune the car before going to dyno....

 

Are you sure your clutch isn't slipping???

 

Tune the car on the dyno, before you kill yourself or someone else.

It makes more sense to do the dyno tuning first. Part throttle tuning on the street is one thing, but WOT is just foolish.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbigg9032 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you sure your clutch isn't slipping???</TD></TR></TABLE>

That was my initial thought as well. I REALLY doubt you're spinning in 5th gear...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That was my initial thought as well. I REALLY doubt you're spinning in 5th gear...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly I mean how much power could it possibley be making UNTUNED maybe 300whp..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. I feel like a ricer for even reading the thread </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbigg9032 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you sure your clutch isn't slipping???</TD></TR></TABLE>

no not a clutch problem
we will make a video

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbigg9032 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Exactly I mean how much power could it possibley be making UNTUNED maybe 300whp..</TD></TR></TABLE>

it has to be around 400whp
on 91 octane it blows the tires in 4th unless tires are warmed up.........

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd also look into your alignment and suspension setup lol

But something still wouldn't be right. I feel like a ricer for even reading the thread </TD></TR></TABLE>


wait till you see our vid of the 400whp car
on 91 octane 9.5lbs of boost through the muffler

 

so what size tire is seng using when you are tuning his car tom?

either the tires are really old(hard) and full of pressure...

or

you should tell seng to put on some soft drag tires, then go on from there.


Modified by gsrious at 4:10 PM 10/25/2008


Modified by gsrious at 4:33 PM 10/25/2008

 

also, are the V10 drag tires, from what ive read they are not

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hyabusa hunter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, are the V10 drag tires, from what ive read they are not</TD></TR></TABLE>they are road racing tires(stiff sidewalls), which = failure to deliver in drag.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsrious &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what size tire is seng using when you are tuning his car tom?

either the tires are really old(hard) and full of pressure...

or

you should tell seng to put on some soft drag tires, then go on from there.


Modified by gsrious at 4:10 PM 10/25/2008


Modified by gsrious at 4:33 PM 10/25/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

the cars not seng s
seng's is tuned by church
his grabs in third gear

 

a .57 trim roasting 5th gear under 4krpm/10lb boost? Are you on ice? Your running Methanol through your Walbro 255?

 

A.) slipping clutch
B.) shitty suspension
C.) shitty tires
D.) B & C
E.) all of the above

 

its my car, and i can vouche for the roasted tires... why is everyone so doubtfull? oh yeah, all of honda-tech members are experts at everything auto related!

 

the v10's are the best "street" slick that ive ever used... so many people doubt then until they get a feel of em in action...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ecks_fourttwo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its my car, and i can vouche for the roasted tires... why is everyone so doubtfull? oh yeah, all of honda-tech members are experts at everything auto related!</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, we are doubtful because a .57 trim at 10psi is not a 5th gear tire roasting snail, I cant roast 5th gear in my car at almost 600whp.

Whats this talk about Methanol, are you running straight Methanol or spraying it?

 

straight methanol.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ecks_fourttwo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">straight methanol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you sure its not soysauce

 

this thread is a huge waste of bandwidth.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marcj &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A.) slipping clutch
B.) shitty suspension
C.) shitty tires
D.) B & C
E.) all of the above</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha

"...and remember children, make sure you are using your HB pencils!"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ecks_fourttwo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">straight methanol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So your flowing straight Methanol through your stock tank, a walbro 255 which then makes its way through stock lines into a stock rail and out a stock regulator.... wow if it were really that easy we would all run Methanol.....


Since Meth pretty much requires double the amount when compared to gasoline, if you were in the 400whp range on Meth your magical Meth compatible Walbro 255 is flowing enough for 800whp on gasoline with stock lines etc, not to mention I dont think RC 1200's would even be enough for 400whp on Meth even if the single 255 could get you there, interesting.......





Modified by 96 GSR-T at 12:42 AM 10/26/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 GSR-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So your flowing straight Methanol through your stock tank, a walbro 255 which then makes its way through stock lines into a stock rail and out a stock regulator.... wow if it were really that easy we would all run Methanol.....


Since Meth pretty much requires double the amount when compared to gasoline, if you were in the 400whp range on Meth your magical Meth compatible Walbro 255 is flowing enough for 800whp on gasoline with stock lines etc, not to mention I dont think RC 1200's would even be enough for 400whp on Meth even if the single 255 could get you there, interesting.......

Modified by 96 GSR-T at 12:42 AM 10/26/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>


tom at rev-speed made over 400whp on 1000cc injectors and a bad cylinder on meth on their 2.0 motor setup... there are some key words in your post that stand out, and i think it says it all....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sa90eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

are you sure its not soysauce </TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahahahahahaha