Has anyone done this w/ good results? Write-ups or links if so please. Thanks.

 

i will be watching this thread also...im interested in same issue..

 

I have HIDs on an non HID JDM black housings front end.

 

buddy of mine has HID's on his, I think he got an HID kit though and that pretty much was plug and play. Very easy

 

Your best option is to sell your non-H.I.D. headlights, and purchase some OEM H.I.D. headlights. It's probably the cheapest route.

You could do a retrofit with some type of HID projector, into the headlights you have, but I think in this case it will cost more than its worth.

Whatever you decide to do, stay away from Plug & Play kits.

 

its def not the cheapest way to go...you know what OEM HID Headlights go for?
like 800+ OEM blackhousings are like 3-400 and and HID kit are like 200 bucks. not even close, pal. Please tell me why a plug and play kit is so bad?

 

I've done it on my NON-HID headlights, looks fine too me. I have 98' spec HID headlights now and I think the difference is that it has a better cut off point but other than that, not really a noticeable difference.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brice.Hayden &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its def not the cheapest way to go...you know what OEM HID Headlights go for?
like 800+ OEM blackhousings are like 3-400 and and HID kit are like 200 bucks. not even close, pal. Please tell me why a plug and play kit is so bad?</TD></TR></TABLE>


I'm only comparing the options the OP has, if he wants a popper OEM HID setup. Be it an OEM retrofit, or OEM HID headlights.

Using the price range you claim, he could sell his non-hid headlights and purchase OEM HID headlights for a total cost between 400-500.

He could purchase OEM HID projectors, bulbs and ballasts of choice (TSX headlights are common), and pay somebody to retrofit them into his JDM non HID headlights. Perfectly suitable option, but not entirely cost affective, in the end it will run between 800-1000.

If your going to take a stab at my advice, do NOT call me "pal." It's very simple, his NON HID headlights were designed for halogen style bulbs, not HID bulbs. In order to properly use an HID setup, he needs HID projectors, which are not included in plug and play style kits.

If you want HID headlights simply to look "cool", don't mind sacrificing visibility, and don't mind blinding oncoming traffic, then buy a plug and play HID kit. Simply put, its unsafe, and there are no benefits beyond blue headlights.

If you want more information regarding my advice, please visit the Lighting forum. There are several examples with pictures, proving my point. I am not here to argue the pro's/cons of an OEM HID setup vs a plug and play HID kit, it has been proven time and time again. https://honda-tech.com/zeroforum/107

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Keep in mind that drivers meeting you on a dark road at night probably have a different opinion. That cutoff is there for a reason, to refrain from blinding others. There are also hotspots, compare the before & after 15 feet away from a white wall and tell me which setup distributes the light evenly and actually gives you an improvement in visibility.

 

if you come up with the oem projectors (ie tsx, tl, s2000, whatever it may be)

"B20inDCinLBC", from what i remember, does retrofitting jobs. it just might be something to look at, i believe he was charging $200, but this was over a year ago.

 

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I'm only comparing the options the OP has, if he wants a popper OEM HID setup. Be it an OEM retrofit, or OEM HID headlights.

Using the price range you claim, he could sell his non-hid headlights and purchase OEM HID headlights for a total cost between 400-500.

He could purchase OEM HID projectors, bulbs and ballasts of choice (TSX headlights are common), and pay somebody to retrofit them into his JDM non HID headlights. Perfectly suitable option, but not entirely cost affective, in the end it will run between 800-1000.

If your going to take a stab at my advice, do NOT call me "pal." It's very simple, his NON HID headlights were designed for halogen style bulbs, not HID bulbs. In order to properly use an HID setup, he needs HID projectors, which are not included in plug and play style kits.

If you want HID headlights simply to look "cool", don't mind sacrificing visibility, and don't mind blinding oncoming traffic, then buy a plug and play HID kit. Simply put, its unsafe, and there are no benefits beyond blue headlights.

If you want more information regarding my advice, please visit the Lighting forum. There are several examples with pictures, proving my point. I am not here to argue the pro's/cons of an OEM HID setup vs a plug and play HID kit, it has been proven time and time again. https://honda-tech.com/zeroforum/107

Keep in mind that drivers meeting you on a dark road at night probably have a different opinion. That cutoff is there for a reason, to refrain from blinding others. There are also hotspots, compare the before & after 15 feet away from a white wall and tell me which setup distributes the light evenly and actually gives you an improvement in visibility.

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popper

oh yeah Sport, I can call you whatever I want. "Pal" seemed appropriate considering your holier than thou attitude and denouncing plug and play kits.
No one came in here wanting them to be "cool" I have a TSX and my DB has projectors and they have almost identical clarity and cutoff. So before running your mouth, you should keep your attitude in check.

 

i have non HID blackhousing on mine with 8000k HID plug and play and i can see everything. then i had a buddy of mine properly aim my beams and people say my lights dont blind them at all.

 

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popper

oh yeah Sport, I can call you whatever I want. "Pal" seemed appropriate considering your holier than thou attitude and denouncing plug and play kits.
No one came in here wanting them to be "cool" I have a TSX and my DB has projectors and they have almost identical clarity and cutoff. So before running your mouth, you should keep your attitude in check. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If your so confident of this then post pic's of both cars headlight pattern on the same wall, and prove the entire lighting forum and internet wrong. Before insisting that I don't give advice, prove your claim, pal. At this point your claim is on the same level as those who run ebay turbo's.

Honestly, I could give a **** less if you want to buy plug and play HID kit's and think you see better, but when your blinding oncoming traffic it becomes a safety issue for others.

Either learn to debate this like an adult and back up your claims with proof or a credible source, or keep your comments to yourself.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by keepinitrehaal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have non HID blackhousing on mine with 8000k HID plug and play and i can see everything. then i had a buddy of mine properly aim my beams and people say my lights dont blind them at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your happy with them then that's great.

 

as for the whole blinding other drivers on the opposite side of the road, why do stock HIDs on the newer cars still do it? some more/less than others, but nonetheless, it's still a hazard like you said.

 

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If your so confident of this then post pic's of both cars headlight pattern on the same wall, and prove the entire lighting forum and internet wrong. Before insisting that I don't give advice, prove your claim, pal. At this point your claim is on the same level as those who run ebay turbo's.

Honestly, I could give a **** less if you want to buy plug and play HID kit's and think you see better, but when your blinding oncoming traffic it becomes a safety issue for others.

Either learn to debate this like an adult and back up your claims with proof or a credible source, or keep your comments to yourself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

he will not necessarily blind incoming traffic with pnp kit because the low beam lights are projection lights you will get the same effect with this set up as factory HID lights.

you will not get the as good results with those headlights as using ones that are specifically made for HID lights; the light beam will be blurry and will loose a lot of its intensity. there were few posts regarding HID setup on JDM fronts where you can find all of the downfalls and advantages of pnp kits, retrofitted non HID headlights, oem hid headlights etc...search

 

An HID kit in factory Integra projectors (USDM or JDM) sucks. I know because I used to have a set. There were mad hotspots, and it really didn't light up anything beyond what my 9005 halogen conversion did anyway.

Not to mention, a PnP kit in JDM Integra headlights are even more likely to blind oncoming traffic because those lights were meant for driving down the left side of the road.

Check the lighting forum for more info about why PnP kits are horrible. EVERY kit, if used in a factory halogen housing, will suck. Period.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S1NFUL RL1 619 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as for the whole blinding other drivers on the opposite side of the road, why do stock HIDs on the newer cars still do it? some more/less than others, but nonetheless, it's still a hazard like you said.</TD></TR></TABLE>

On a perfectly flat surface, the cutoff is most effective and keeps the majority of light out of oncoming drivers eyes.

On even the slightest incline, the cutoff is raised up because of the angle the car is on. I assume this is what causes most people to complain about HID's.

I remember reading somewhere about a manufacture putting a leveling system in their OEM headlights that kept the cutoff where it needs to be, out of other driver's eyes. I don't remember who it is though.

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he will not necessarily blind incoming traffic with pnp kit because the low beam lights are projection lights you will get the same effect with this set up as factory HID lights.

you will not get the as good results with those headlights as using ones that are specifically made for HID lights; the light beam will be blurry and will loose a lot of its intensity. there were few posts regarding HID setup on JDM fronts where you can find all of the downfalls and advantages of pnp kits, retrofitted non HID headlights, oem hid headlights etc...search </TD></TR></TABLE>

The OEM projectors are designed for Halogen bulbs, not HID bulbs. There is a huge difference, there are no gains to be had interchanging bulb and projector types that are not designed to work together.

I was searching for that thread to prove my point, but couldn't find it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">An HID kit in factory Integra projectors (USDM or JDM) sucks. I know because I used to have a set. There were mad hotspots, and it really didn't light up anything beyond what my 9005 halogen conversion did anyway.

Not to mention, a PnP kit in JDM Integra headlights are even more likely to blind oncoming traffic because those lights were meant for driving down the left side of the road.

Check the lighting forum for more info about why PnP kits are horrible. EVERY kit, if used in a factory halogen housing, will suck. Period.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly the point i'm trying to make here. It has been proven over and over again. I'm no lighting expert, but I have researched this in the past before deciding the end result does not justify the cost of a proper retrofit, IMO.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">An HID kit in factory Integra projectors (USDM or JDM) sucks. I know because I used to have a set. There were mad hotspots, and it really didn't light up anything beyond what my 9005 halogen conversion did anyway.

Not to mention, a PnP kit in JDM Integra headlights are even more likely to blind oncoming traffic because those lights were meant for driving down the left side of the road.

Check the lighting forum for more info about why PnP kits are horrible. EVERY kit, if used in a factory halogen housing, will suck. Period.</TD></TR></TABLE>

BLINDING OTHERS FTW!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">An HID kit in factory Integra projectors (USDM or JDM) sucks. I know because I used to have a set. There were mad hotspots, and it really didn't light up anything beyond what my 9005 halogen conversion did anyway.

Not to mention, a PnP kit in JDM Integra headlights are even more likely to blind oncoming traffic because those lights were meant for driving down the left side of the road.

Check the lighting forum for more info about why PnP kits are horrible. EVERY kit, if used in a factory halogen housing, will suck. Period.</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh i blind the [freak] out of people jdm front PnP kit. raised ftmfw!

 

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If your so confident of this then post pic's of both cars headlight pattern on the same wall, and prove the entire lighting forum and internet wrong. Before insisting that I don't give advice, prove your claim, pal. At this point your claim is on the same level as those who run ebay turbo's.

Honestly, I could give a **** less if you want to buy plug and play HID kit's and think you see better, but when your blinding oncoming traffic it becomes a safety issue for others.

Either learn to debate this like an adult and back up your claims with proof or a credible source, or keep your comments to yourself.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes ebay turbos are = plug and play HID kits...i totally agree

You haven't proven anything either, all you are doing is talking and showing no proof. hell i have shown pics of my cars all over H-T and you haven't shown ****.
You can't determine what other people see when they are driving towards me BECAUSE you dont live near me! I am debating this like an adult and not resulting to name calling and have posted my cars which are top of the line
keep your own comments to things YOU can backup

 

How about I post some pics. Here's my car with old HID kit in stock halogen projectors vs. stock S2000 headlights.

My car


S2000


You can clearly see the narrow beam pattern and hot spots directly in front of my car. That light is useless on the road as it's too close to the front of the car. Meanwhile the S2000 puts down much wider an even lighting.

The HID ITR headlights will get you similar lighting to the S2000, except the step in the beam pattern will be oriented the opposite direction. It's not the best solution for driving on the right side of the road, but it's still better than throwing HID's in the stock halogen projectors.

Now here's a shot of my Hella bi-xenon HID projectors.


These aren't the best HID projectors out there, but it's still tons better than the stock halogen projectors were. TSX or S2000 projectors would put out even more light and an even wider beam pattern.

 

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yes ebay turbos are = plug and play HID kits...i totally agree

You haven't proven anything either, all you are doing is talking and showing no proof. hell i have shown pics of my cars all over H-T and you haven't shown ****.
You can't determine what other people see when they are driving towards me BECAUSE you dont live near me! I am debating this like an adult and not resulting to name calling and have posted my cars which are top of the line
keep your own comments to things YOU can backup </TD></TR></TABLE>

Your right, I have never seen your car, or it's headlights. I was not trying to attack you personally, nor did I ever say anything negative about your car. Where did that come from? If you are happy with your PNP HID kit, great! That's all that matters! Just because I don't agree on your choice on a headlight setup, does not mean I'm bashing your car. It looks good in the posted pictures, i'm glad your happy with it!

I don't post my cars on HT for several reasons. My main concern is theft, which is a HUGE problem here in Texas. I've put far too much money and time into my builds to have some ******* come molest my cars for parts. I don't hang out with "honda" people and I don't go to local meets or events. I don't flash my cars locally or on the internet. I build things for personal satisfaction, the way I like them, and could give a **** less about impressing anybody. Aside from that, pictures of my car's will not benefit this thread, I run OEM Halogen headlamps and i'm completely happy with them. I felt for my last build, the money was better spent on my motor & suspension.

Back to the topic at hand, and to help guide the OP in the right direction. There is no disputing the fact that halogen projectors are made for halogen bulbs, and HID projector's are made for HID bulbs. For best results, don't mix and match.

Here is an example and picture comparison of a PNP kit vs. An OEM retrofit - http://www.supraforums.com/for...26979

Here is a short video with examples, explaining the difference - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuSSdZNsZw

Here's a great read explaining anything else you need to know - http://www.danielsternlighting....html

 

unless you have the JDM front end the OP is suggesting and have some comparison with the Halogen vs an OEM HID front vs OEM blackhousing with plug and play it seems useless to surmise something. those links are helpful but doesnt answer any of HIS questions just tries to affirm your points towards the downfall of a plug and play it in a Halogen built headlight.
I will go out of my way to photograph my TSX and my Integra just to show you how similar the two are. if by some stretch you and the OP don't see it, then i guess im the only one with this opinion.

 

Ok, can one (or has anyone ever) retrofit S2k HIDs into the JDM ITR Non-HID housing?

 

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word of advice doing a retro fit is not as easy as you think it is. it is "do-able" in any case, downside is that it is VERY time consuming and sourcing all of the parts is a nightmare too. just my .02 cents