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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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alright guys, i have a 2000 civic si and im going to be swaping the front lower subframe on it. now my question is if i use a eg subframe or a dc subframe i think those do swap onto a 2000 civic. but what happens to the suspension geometry ? does everything stay the same ? or does caster or toe or camber shift in anyway? and will the em1 lca fit into a eg or dc subframe? also can i still use my civic si rack and pinion?.

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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Why are you swapping it.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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K series?
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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em1 lca are 1 peice, anything else are 2 peice.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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no one answered any of my questions i already know ctr/em1 is one peace.. that was not my question!!!. reason for swapping is because mines bent.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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not sure if subframe is different.. id imagine a ek would bolt up..
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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of course a ek would bolt up.. that what the car is lol. its a em1.. same thing as a ek.. still no answer to any of my questions !!
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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someone knows about this stuff !
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alphalanos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why are you swapping it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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already answered that ! mines bent! now stop asking weird stuff and someone answer this question plz !
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Okay I will answer your Q as many as possible.

EG/DC subframe or crossmember is completely different in designs from that of EK's. So to answer your questions, yes, changing the subframe to DC/EG's will change the suspension geometry.

For LCAs, yes you can use EG or DC lower arms, but I believe it will change the suspension geometry as well. I do not know exactly what will be changed upon changing LCAs, but I am pretty sure the EK and DC/EG LCAs are different in sizes. But I am only 80% sure on LCAs, so somebody correct me if i am wrong

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RED_90TEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright guys, i have a 2000 civic si and im going to be swaping the front lower subframe on it. now my question is if i use a eg subframe or a dc subframe i think those do swap onto a 2000 civic. but what happens to the suspension geometry ? does everything stay the same ? or does caster or toe or camber shift in anyway? and will the em1 lca fit into a eg or dc subframe? also can i still use my civic si rack and pinion?.

thanks for the help guys !


Modified by RED_90TEG at 8:45 AM 10/24/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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now were getting somewhere !
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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happy halloween
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RED_90TEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">happy halloween</TD></TR></TABLE>

you too. but if i were you i would search about and find the em1 subframe and keep everything within the limits of your make and model this will ensure the best fit with the least amount of headaches. along with spring rates and everything else when it comes to changing parts and getting an alignment...
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 06:26 AM
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yeah thanks buddy i think u are right about that ! its most deff going to save me alot of headaches and less work ! i think that all the ek subframes are the same from coupes to hatches.. ex ,dx and si models someone correct me if im wrong plz!
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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yes all the eks are the same
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