I have $10,000.00 on a motor and im putting the motor in a Ek hatch what do you think i should do ? i want a b16 turbo, is that a good idea ? i want turbo but i dont know what to do on the internals to keep it a daily driven car what will i have to do ???? if you dont think a b16 is good then what other engine is good ?

if i changed my mind about the turbo what would be the best all motor engine ? or hybrid ? give me some help, im a stupid *** newbie but i do have the money.

Thanks for whoever replies

 

What motor

 

save your money

 

on any motor that would be the best for the EK hatch. i want to go to turbo.

 

$10k is not good enough, save up more.....

 

What is your goal with the car? Are you trying to achieve a certain time in the quarter mile? Do you just want a fast street car? Do you want a fast track car?

You need to have clear cut goals before you get into modifying your car, otherwise you're going to waste your money and probably end up unhappy.

Also, keep in mind that if you put $10,000 into a motor you're not going to get that money back if you sell it, you'll be lucky to get even half of that back.

 

go sell the EK and put a downpayment on somthing nice
like the new lancer EVO or a WRX.

if you really wanna waste 10,000$ this is what i would do
b20 (NOT b20vtec) just build it and boost it
or a b18c, build it and boost it.

 

i wanna a got track car, but reliable for a daily driven street car. i want to hit 12's or less. possible with a daily driven car ?

 

Sell Civic, put $10k towards a Z06 or Camaro SS or some other large engined car. It'll be faster and more reliable in the long run.

 

1. Leave the engine stock
2. Park it in your driveway, motor running, in neutral
3. Stand on the throttle until the engine blows up (or overheats and then blows up)
4. Mail the $10k to me to spend on a new racing car

At the end of the process, you will have exactly the same thing - a roached engine and empty checking account.

Seriously, Crackmonkey's suggestion is the best to date. Heck, a mid-'80s Corvette is probably an option.

K

 

What you're asking for can be done but I think everyone will agree that you'll have much more fun with maybe an engine swap, a little suspension and tires, then doing a ton of track days. Spending $10000 so you can do 36-60 seconds of driving everyonce in awhile seems like somewhat of a waste when you can drive 2-3 hours of all out driving just about every weekend for a year with the same money.

That said, if you still want a 12 second daily driver you could get there with a built up turbo B20 VTEC or B18C but a car that modified is going to have continual nagging issues you'll have to attend to and as such will be a pain in the *** daily driver. You may do better with a Z28 or 5L Mustang if drag racing is you bag.

 

by track do you mean dragstrip, auto-x, or road race? Or all three?


[Modified by NegativeLift, 12:13 AM 7/29/2002]

 

I've been saying this for a long time after i went down the road of DSP in what ended up being a underprepared waste of money... when i could have built a very competitve stock class autocrosser for the cash. Dont do this...

Save the money and make sure your car is in tip-top shape. Then do a track weekend. You'll be hooked.

 

all three...street car, track car, etc. FAST OFF THE LINE

 

That said, if you still want a 12 second daily driver you could get there with a built up turbo B20 VTEC or B18C but a car that modified is going to have continual nagging issues you'll have to attend to and as such will be a pain in the *** daily driver.

what do you mean ???

 

So basically you want a car that you can drive like an idiot with on the street???

The fact of the matter is if you put $10K into just an engine the rest of your car is going to be horribly underprepared to deal with a twofold increase in power. You have to look at the big picture when it comes to preparing the vehicle. Now that you've "got" $10K for an engine, what about the $1K+ for a limited slip and/or trans that will actually put that power down? Or the $1K+ in suspension setup that will actually let you use that power on the street? Or the few hundred (at least!) for your brakes when you need to slow that power down? Tires?

You see where i'm going with this, i hope.

The fact of the matter is if you want to "go fast" then the track is where its at. You go as fast as your skill allows and no matter what you drive - it is still fast out there. This past friday at the track i rolled a bunch of camaros, mustangs, miatas, M3's and most everything else in my way in the turns in my 130HP FWD Saturn. And let me tell you, it sure is hell isnt the car.

RJ - who loves being on track and still has alot to learn!

 

yeah i understand. Will it cost me my whole 10,000 just for the engine to help me hit 12's or less ?

 

Talk to engine builders in your area, look for a solid honda/acura shop with a reputation - ask around. See what they recommend for you to do. I imagine a B18C1 engine/trans combo would be fairly resonable, even with installation. Bolt-on's and tuning should get you to 13's and make for a very fun daily driver, with stock honda reliability.

Why are you set on running 12's? Your 1/4 mile time is just a number... and once you 'build' your car and set limitations for reliability and daily driving you will quickly reach a ceiling of how fast you can push that car down the drag strip.

This is entirely the opposite for what happens at the track, where drivers improve over the course of their entire careers, and without making any changes to the car, you can continually improve. While each dragstrip is only marginally different, each road course you visit will require a different strategy, different lines, and different thinking to attack the course the best way. This is one of the things that makes track days so fun.

RJ

 

What I meant about the daily pain issues is that with a car like that you'll constantly have to worry about overheating, monitoring pressures, more maintenance than usual, making sure the engine doesnt commit suicide...
For daily driving you could just turn the boost down tho.

As for the cost, I don't know if it'll take all of $10000 but itll take at least $7000 to do it. And as everyone here has already said, that money will be much better spent actually doing events. Once you get to that 12 second mark you'll say now what? After doing a couple of 12 seconds you're either going to want to go faster or you're going to be looking for the next thrill.

My advice to you is do a track day and autox first. Then determine whether you still want to spend the money on the engine. You can always go midway and get the engine swap, limited slip, and suspension and still have a very fun car. But definitely test the water first, you may find you want to build a race car.

 

12 sec is slow....

 

After fixing up the motor im going to fix the car for looks. and the interior. i just want go fast before looks. Know what i mean ?

 

If you want a fast show car and don't care about anything else, have at it, more power to ya. But as I said, try the alternatives out before you lay down all of your cash. There is nothing worse than spending several thousands and months or even years of your life to learn something you could have learned with just $500 and two weekends.

 

Shouldn't this be in the Phag Racing forum?

"12-second street car that I can take to the track"...how many times have we heard this over in the R forum?

Your ideal car: a Supra with single-turbo conversion and some neon

 

Phag racing...haha, its nice to hear from the closed minded every now and then.

To answer the question it is possible to have a honda run 12s, daily driven, and still be great on a road course. Those who say a turbo is too much maintenance either loathe working on cars or have had bad experiences with lesser quality kits.

If you want more help I think you should post about what builds a good drag car in the drag forum and what builds a good road racing car here. If not you'll run into fools on either side (example above) who think their form of racing is better.

I do both, I'm good at both, and doing well in one form of racing can help you in others.

 

Trust me; U dont want to do that.
I have a 12 second boosted car that I track. As RJ said, u need to compliment your engine with other upgrades, which may add up in another $10k.
I consider my car a daily driver, but its a stretch at that. Try $90CAN oil changes every 2000km's, LSD fluid change every 5000km (which is very expenisve by the way). Honestly, save urself the trouble..buy a factory fi car, and with BPU u can be in 12's.
Listen to us, because we've all been through this..and in my case im learning the hard way with a steep line of credit that I have to pay off.