ok i have posted a topic on their site as well and havent gotten any answers back thought maybe you's could! i bought all this stuff back in feb/mar. and still cant figure out how to get it to connect, i have tried diff cables and today tried to hook it up to a serial port on the back of my dad's pc and still wont connect any help on this please and thanks, starting to thnk i wasted my $ when i cant use it to learn. i also dont wanna have to spend more $ for the tunerveiw screen when i can use a laptop. here is a link to my post on their site

http://www.innovatemotorsports...=9662


Modified by jlfrnce at 7:15 PM 10/12/2008

 

Do you have the terminator plugged into the serial in connection of the LC-1 unit? Are you sure that you are connecting to the LC-1 using the serial out connection? The serial out connection is the unmarked one.

 

they are both marked on mine 1 is OUT and the other say IN, yes the lil terminator plug is in the right way, i even tried to flip those around and still nothing, i have been at this for 2 months now, it sucks

 

How do you have it wired up?
Do you have the 6 or 7 wire setup?

 

as in the plug or the wires you install it? if you mean install i have 6 wires, yellow and brown arent hooked to anything, the led light blinks and does what it is supposed to do, showing it is working properly

Modified by jlfrnce at 1:05 PM 10/13/2008


Modified by jlfrnce at 1:06 PM 10/13/2008

 

If your not using any of the output wires how are you using the LC-1? Are you running two O2 sensors. OEM narrow band to run your ECU and the LC-1 wide band for logging AFR's? I'm not familiar with this sort of setup.

I had mine hooked up with the LC-1's yellow wire set up as a stock Honda analog signal and it was connected directly to the D14 pin of my OBD1 ECU. The brown wire was set and connected to my XD-16. I had no problems hooking my laptop up and reading both signals. I was reading the wide band signal that was going to the XD-16 through logWorks2 and the supplied 2.5mm stereo to DB9 serial cable. At the same time I was also reading the narrow band signal from the ECU in the Crome dataloging window.

 

there is also a in and out stereo plug that i am putting the terminator plug in like it says to tried with it out and still nothingi am running as of now chipped ecu w/ stock o2 sensor, i take everything back out as in RTP and the lm1after i try and try and wideband doesnt connect, i can get the rtp to run, could i read my a/f ratio from that to tune it?

 

What do you mean by RTP. I think of an RTP as Real Time Programmer...ie an Ostrich or some other hardware device used to communicate between a PC and the ECU.

What are you using to tune your ECU?

Some software will allow you to use alternate Pins on the ECU to make full use of the voltage range of the wideband Sensor. That way you could get rid of the stock O2 sensor and hook up the LC-1 as your only O2. You would set up the yellow wire as the stock Honda analog signal to ECU pin D14 (OBD1). Then hook the Brown wire up to an open ECU PIN (ELD-D10) and set it up in your software as an Innovate LC-1 wide band input. This is the way I will be setting mine up next.

 

neptune rtp is what i mean and that is what i am waiting t tune with or will be as soon as i fure this all out

 

Someone that has experience with NepTune RTP will have to chime in.

Here is what I found just from a few minutes using the NepTune RTP software.

I downloaded NepTune 041808 and I found that if you look under edit/preferences there is a logging tab. In there it has a box to select wide band O2 logging and a few options for what ECU pin you would prefer to use. For some reason the Innovate LC-1 isn't an available option in the drop down. But you are able to add your own and it's corresponding voltage:AFR data.

 

what are your ecu pins then if that is the case are they + or - so i know what wire to hook up from the wideband

 

Analog out 1, Yellow wire = Stock narrow band signal going to D14
Analog out 2, Brown wire = 0v=7.35 AFR to 5v=22.39 AFR going to one of the following ECU pins; D10(ELD), B6 or D12 (EGR Lift Input) Set these values in LogWorks2 on the Analog out 2 tab.

It's up too you witch pin you choose for the brown wire signal. B6 would be the choice if you are planning on using both your ELD and EGR lift sensors.

 

see i cant get the logworks to work, that is my problem with it all and was thinking i might be able to see afr's threww the neptune RTP

 

That is what I'm trying to tell you, You don't need LogWorksw2 if you set it up through your NepTune RTP ECU.

That's the wiring configuration that I just posted. It's all going through your Neptune RTP chipped ECU. It will allow you too see the full range of AFRs from 7.49 up to 22.39 by using the additional settings in the logging tab of the NepTune RTP software.

Have you familiarized yourself with the NepTune RTP software yet?


Here is the tab you are looking to enter your Innovate WB O2 information into.

 

i have tried a few thing but nothing really, anyhow couldnt tell if it did any good or not, i am new to this but willing to learn, i will give the wiring a try when the rain stops and i'm not working. as soon as i get it to go the way i need it too then i can rent/barrow a laptop to give tuning a shot