Okay, I understand you guys do motor swaps to make it faster, which is fine.

But I've been shopping around for a stock Civic, and A LOT of the ads I see have a new motor. Not an upgrade, just the same one. Not with crazy high milage either. Like say 130-150k miles, but 75 000 on motor.

Again with an enthusiast I would understand, to upgrade etc. But these seam like people who don't care about cars. Why would so many people need to swap on their motors? They can last 200++ thousand miles, even if you aren't that great on maintaining them, or beat them up etc. It's ridiculous that so many are swapped.

Is it just me or do you guys see this too? I don't see it on any other car I looked at, only on Civics..

Here are some examples, keep in mind these are KM not miles. Most of these have 250 000 km or so which is 155000 miles. These are all posted within the last 24 hours. I'm just wondering why so many cars would have new/rebuilt engines, 155k miles isn't really a lot..

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-car...16949

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-car...14295

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-car...11552

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-car...01171

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-car...75150

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-car...92381

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-car...22148


Thoughts ?

 

its alota work to do a motor swap. not just a plug and play. . think new motor. new tranny, new mounts, ect.

 

they beat the **** out of them

 

Probably because kids get ahold of them and beat the p!ss out of them as well as not doing maintenance.

Also, 96-00 Y motors seem a bit prone to crank/rod bearing failure.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mcvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Probably because kids get ahold of them and beat the p!ss out of them as well as not doing maintenance.

Also, 96-00 Y motors seem a bit prone to crank/rod bearing failure.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what i thought

 

170k+ miles on mine still going like the day I got it when it had 67,568 back in aug. '99

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlitzSix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A LOT of the ads I see have a new motor. Not an upgrade, just the same one. Not with crazy high milage either. Like say 130-150k miles, but 75 000 on motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the '92 - '95s probably blew headgaskets. Its IMO easier and cheaper in the long run to simply swap in a low mileage JDM SOHC engine than to attempt to fix the current engine. The '96 - '00s probably spun bearings. And either group could have snapped timing belts due to neglect.

 

they hold on the highways there, so problaly over reving blowing up etc.
But i realised that too because alot of hondas were saying that... i was just thinking either they say that to make the cars value greater, they dont do maitence so ran out of oil, THEY ARE STOLEN/tagged w/e you call them ( be true then because they problaly change odometer reading) or needed work (ie burnt valve, PVC valve cloged, running CAI and suck up water)

 

I don't understand it either. I pulled my d16y8 with 183K miles on it, and it was running flawlessly - just wanted a gsr and found a good deal, but I had no real mechanical reason to pull it. Hell, I still have the d16y8 complete swap for in case my wife ever lets me buy an EF.

IMO, any civic that *needed* to have a new motor at 155K wasn't taken care of properly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pothole987 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they hold on the highways there, so problaly over reving blowing up etc.
But i realised that too because alot of hondas were saying that... i was just thinking either they say that to make the cars value greater, they dont do maitence so ran out of oil, THEY ARE STOLEN/tagged w/e you call them ( be true then because they problaly change odometer reading) or needed work (ie burnt valve, PVC valve cloged, running CAI and suck up water) </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah that's true. It still seems weird to me though, I've shopped for other cars before and mostly see this on Civics.

Would you guys stay away from a swapped car like that, or no ?

 

i think its a sales pitch. knowing civics are swapped so much they just say its a newer motor. you can tell just look at the engine mount bolts and see if the motor was ever really taken out