i seen a best motoring video where a stock 2007 ctr spanks an s2k the civic only pushes 210 and its heavier vs 240-45 hp s2k i just cant believe it can someone clear this for me .

 

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You really cant figure this one out for your self?

 

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lol jeebus

 

I dont know why it keeps surprising people, the S2000 design is close to 10 years old.

 

drivers, road conditions, and usuallt fwd can accelerate sooer outa corners.....but i'd say its drivers mostly

 

jesus... i have never even heard of one of the rice machines yet...prob one of the ugliest vehicles that honda has made.

 

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so age alone makes it obsolete? what is the point of this statement?

 

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so age alone makes it obsolete? what is the point of this statement?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the new ctr is made of a lighter metal... allowing them to reinforce the chassis more without adding any additional weight

 

that doesn't make the S obsolete though. lol sure, the lighter components have an advantage over the S then.

 

no i wasnt saying that, just saying thats the main reason... you can't really beat new engineering with old engineering

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ReddotsS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jesus... i have never even heard of one of the rice machines yet...prob one of the ugliest vehicles that honda has made.

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That's the European version. I believe the Civic Type R that the OP is talking about is this




Modified by ricepicker at 12:51 PM 10/13/2008

 

regardless, i have never heard of it....I live in america.

 

wouldn't mind driving one of those. clean as hell and they say it doesn't even drive like a front wheel, too bad japan always keeps the good stuff to themselves....especially the civic mugen RR. -_-

 

a friend of mine got the chance to buy a mugen rr for $60k imported/registered/etc... he turned it down though

 

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can you really blame him?? i mean its a $60k civic!! its cool as hell, but still... whos gonna pay that much for a freaking civic??

 

best motoring did a time attack of the ctr sedan around suzuka, and they managed a faster laptime for the ctr than a stock nsx.

so, i suppose, if honda really want to, they can do anything?

 

i own one of the "ugliest vehicles"...

although it doesn't come with a differential, it's nice to drive.
you can feel that you loose traction in the corners. especially if in u-turns (swiss alps).

it gots a lot of understeering ('cause of the weight).

that's the reason why i put a differential of the '01 CTR into my '07.
understeering and traction loss are nearly eliminated.

and the CTR (EUDM) is faster than an S...
both are fun to drive in their way. but not really comparable in a time attack..

due to the fact of the age-difference and rwd vs. fwd


Modified by beelow at 7:39 PM 10/13/2008

 

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I'm sorry...

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Oh noes, how dos zee vheels turn?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and the CTR (EUDM) is faster than an S...
both are fun to drive in their way. but not really comparable in a time attack..
due to the fact of the age-difference and rwd vs. fwd</TD></TR></TABLE>
...

 

true

 

This is the only video that comes to mind when comparing the new CTR to the S2000. Yes, it does yeild a faster lap time but that could easily be the difference in tires, pads, track configuration, etc to one car's advantage over the other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoH5ybsYri8

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jackson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is the only video that comes to mind when comparing the new CTR to the S2000. Yes, it does yeild a faster lap time but that could easily be the difference in tires, pads, track configuration, etc to one car's advantage over the other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoH5ybsYri8</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually theres the BMI vid they were talking about.. and the s2k had no excuse not to win honestly.. other than the fact that tsuchiya was driving the ctr.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

 

I think he talking about the spoon fa that has s2k internals in the k series. It was in the Honda tuning magazine a while back. I'll just say, it's the drivers.