so im swaping a H22 into my 92 si. It had a H23 in it before.

before i freak out and break something im going to ask this question.

I have run into this problem. WE were taking off the harmonic balance and we discovered that on the h22 harmonic balance it has 5 ribs on it for the belt and on the ac unit on the h23 it has 4. so the belt wont work. what am i supposed to do can i swap the h23 one onto the h22 or what? i have talked to like 3 people and read at least 3 how toos on this swap and none of them talked about this issue. please help im very annoyed right now and really starting to get mad.

sorry if i have the terms all messed up this is what some old guy told me to say.

 

swap the crank pulley and alternator to match with the AC compressor. So they all have the same about of ribs and can fit a belt without a problem. And just keep in mind what motor you have to get a belt for.
Say you used the h23 harmonic blancer/crankshaft pulley, h23 alt, and kept ur h23 AC compressor, u'd need the belt for the h23.

 

so they all will work. i was wondering if they were interchangeable.

 

1. Keep the h23 ps pump and lines (no need to disconnect during the swap) and use the ps bracket that comes with the h22 motor.
2. Use the h23 alternator and install it on to the h22 bracket.
3. Reinstall the h23 AC compressor on the h22 motor (no need to disconnect during the swap).
4. Keep the h22 crank pulley on the motor (no need to swap).
5. Use the alternator and ps belts from the h23 motor. One rib on the h22 crank pulley won't be covered by the alternator belt and that's okay.

 

i was thinking about putting the 4 rib belt on the 5 rib pulley. there shouldnt be a problem then? or will there?

 

Many users have reported no issues with using the 4 rib belt on the 5 rib h22 crank pulley.

Personally, I don't like taking shortcuts so I used my h23 pulley since I had a complete/blown h23 to rip apart.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by socialistic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Many users have reported no issues with using the 4 rib belt on the 5 rib h22 crank pulley.

Personally, I don't like taking shortcuts so I used my h23 pulley since I had a complete/blown h23 to rip apart.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what I would do...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by socialistic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Many users have reported no issues with using the 4 rib belt on the 5 rib h22 crank pulley.

Personally, I don't like taking shortcuts so I used my h23 pulley since I had a complete/blown h23 to rip apart.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can't use the h23 crank pulley if you want to keep ps on the h22 motor due to the outer ps belt alignment. It would be off by the distance of one rib. Additonally, you can't use the h23 ps bracket due to the mounting location on the cylinder head. The ps bracket is not interchangeable.

 

no no no..use the right pulley with the proper belts. If it fails prematurely you'll be kicking yourself later. This is a 1500 dollar swap almost. No sense cheapingout and having to pay more later. Do it right, the first time!

 

so can someone confirm all the h23 pulleys will work on the h22? cuz i have heard that they do and i have heard that they dont.

 

Crank: No, the h23 crank pulley can't be used with the h22 swap IF you want to keep PS. Here is the reason. The PS pump and pulley are the same for both h23 and h22. The only difference is the mounting bracket which positions the PS pump assembly out slightly to correctly align with the h22 crank pulley outer section due to the extra rib on the crank inner section. The overall thickness of the two crank pulleys is different. The h22 pulley being thicker for obvious reason. If you don't need PS, then you can use the h23 crank and the 5 rib belt.

AC: If the h22 motor didn't come with AC compressor or you want to keep the AC compressor from the h23, then you MUST use the 5 rib belt from the h23 regardless with crank pulley you choose. The 6 rib belt obviously wouldn't fit the h23 compressor pulley.

Alternator: You can use either the h22 or h23 alternaotr, but you MUST use the 5 rib belt from the h23 if you are keeping AC or using the h23 crank pulley as these items share the same belt. I found it easier to just keep the h23 alternator.

 

so, i know i shouldn't and its not the safest thing to do but, i could use the smaller belt if i wanted?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tizzakowack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so, i know i shouldn't and its not the safest thing to do but, i could use the smaller belt if i wanted?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not sure what you mean by "not the safest thing to do". If you think about it, which belt drives your h23 alternator and AC? It's the same belt. You wouldn't consider that unsafe, would you? We are talking about an accessory belt, not a timing belt.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Crank: No, the h23 crank pulley can't be used with the h22 swap IF you want to keep PS. Here is the reason. The PS pump and pulley are the same for both h23 and h22. The only difference is the mounting bracket which positions the PS pump assembly out slightly to correctly align with the h22 crank pulley outer section due to the extra rib on the crank inner section. The overall thickness of the two crank pulleys is different. The h22 pulley being thicker for obvious reason. If you don't need PS, then you can use the h23 crank and the 5 rib belt.
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Incorrect.

I'm using ALL H23 pulleys (including the crank pulley) on my JDM H22. PS works fine. It may be a little misaligned (haven't paid that much attention to it) but it does work.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sean1121 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Incorrect.

I'm using ALL H23 pulleys (including the crank pulley) on my JDM H22. PS works fine. It may be a little misaligned (haven't paid that much attention to it) but it does work.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Please explain exactly what do you gain by using a h23 crank pulley on a h22 swap? Why would anyone go through the effort to gain nothing but a misaligned PS belt, and doing it on purpose? Doing something and doing something right is not the same. I give up trying to understand the logic behind such practice. You can do whatever you want...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Please explain exactly what do you gain by using a h23 crank pulley on a h22 swap? Why would anyone go through the effort to gain nothing but a misaligned PS belt, and doing it on purpose? Doing something and doing something right is not the same. I give up trying to understand the logic behind such practice. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I did it so I didn't have to change all the accessory pulleys. I didn't know I could use the H22 crank pulley with the H23 belts when I did the swap.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can do whatever you want...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks, I was wondering.