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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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I just got my Build done and its only putting down 187whp and the compression is reading 210 across the board! Ok so here is what I got:

B18c5 Block
Stock ITR Crank
Eagle Rods
Wiseco 11:5 pistons Over sized .25
OEM Head gastet
Block gaurd
Clutch masters Lightened Flywheel
Clutch masters Clutch kit

B18C5 Head
Ferrea Valves Over sized 1mm
Supertech Valve springs/ret
Toda B Cams
Stock ITR Intake manifold/TB
Hondata IM Gasket
Precision 440 injectors
Toda header

Now Like I said its only making 187WHP on a mustang dyno. Im worried about the compression numbers really. I think it should be higher?? I dropped a Valve and had the head Fixed at a Machine shop and a light PNP done. The Block was also bored/decked/honed. Let me know what you guys think it could be?? thanks
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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Sounds about right to me. Maybe 190.
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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who build your motor?
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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you have a pretty good setup for street car....what program are you on???? To see more power with the setup you have....there's something you missing....just follow the rainbow and you will find a ported head awaiting for you......




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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chanDAman562 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who build your motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I Dont want to put anybody on blast!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2ALLMOTOR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you have a pretty good setup for street car....what program are you on???? To see more power with the setup you have....there's something you missing....just follow the rainbow and you will find a ported head awaiting for you......

Im running Chrome.

Modified by DC2ALLMOTOR at 9:43 PM 10/4/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 04:10 AM
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I am guessing you wanted to break 200. You have a very solid set-up there are a few items that could help a bit.
The Toda header is good header but there are better ones out there; SMSP, Hytech with a full 2-1/2" or larger exhaust should give you some more.
Was the intake manifold port matched to the head? A larger bore Throttle body.
What kind of Intake? A 3" with a velocity stack is also a very good choice.
Just a few items for you think about.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 04:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4ev-Rnoob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just got my Build done and its only putting down 187whp and the compression is reading 210 across the board! Ok so here is what I got:

B18c5 Block
Stock ITR Crank
Eagle Rods
Wiseco 11:5 pistons Over sized .25
OEM Head gastet
Block gaurd
Clutch masters Lightened Flywheel
Clutch masters Clutch kit

B18C5 Head
Ferrea Valves Over sized 1mm
Supertech Valve springs/ret
Toda B Cams
Stock ITR Intake manifold/TB
Hondata IM Gasket
Precision 440 injectors
Toda header

Now Like I said its only making 187WHP on a mustang dyno. Im worried about the compression numbers really. I think it should be higher?? I dropped a Valve and had the head Fixed at a Machine shop and a light PNP done. The Block was also bored/decked/honed. Let me know what you guys think it could be?? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

your answer is, its a mustang dyno....which read.. the lowest, you want 200whp go to a dynojet.

On another note.. whats your exhaust..Toda header is ok.. but if u want real power i'd suggest smsp, bisimoto , or hytech.
You should have at least a 2.5''+ Exhaust and a good true 3'' intake with some type of vstack on the end..This is just a few things that come to mind..but you'll make 200whp on a dynojet..
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

your answer is, its a mustang dyno....which read.. the lowest, you want 200whp go to a dynojet.

On another note.. whats your exhaust..Toda header is ok.. but if u want real power i'd suggest smsp, bisimoto , or hytech.
You should have at least a 2.5''+ Exhaust and a good true 3'' intake with some type of vstack on the end..This is just a few things that come to mind..but you'll make 200whp on a dynojet..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im Running the Apexi WSP2!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OH_1fstgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am guessing you wanted to break 200. You have a very solid set-up there are a few items that could help a bit.
The Toda header is good header but there are better ones out there; SMSP, Hytech with a full 2-1/2" or larger exhaust should give you some more.
Was the intake manifold port matched to the head? A larger bore Throttle body.
What kind of Intake? A 3" with a velocity stack is also a very good choice.
Just a few items for you think about.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stock intake manifold/TB. Not port matched!
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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i would be happy if i was you. sounds like a strong motor. people dont realize toda specializes in road coarse stuff,so there concerned about mid range power not top end. post up your graph,i bet you have a nice midrange. if you want drag racing/topend power go with another cam/header combo
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4ev-Rnoob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Im Running the Apexi WSP2!

Stock intake manifold/TB. Not port matched! </TD></TR></TABLE> You got 187 on an Apexi, you should be REAL happy. Numbers now sound high.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> You got 187 on an Apexi, you should be REAL happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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I'm in the same boat. My ITR only put down 186whp and 123wtq
3" SRI with BPI Velocity Stack
Hytech Header
T1R Exhaust
Supertech Flat Faced Valves, Dual Valve Springs, Stem Seals, Bronze Valve Guides
OEM Retainers
Skunk2 Stage 2 Cams
Skunk2 Cam Gears
Factory Overbored Pistons +.25
Cometic HeadGasket
Hondata IMG

I was expecting to break 200whp.

Compression ran 225 ACROSS. Did a leakdown and I have 20% leak in cylinder 1 and 4, rings are toast. Having it fixed in 2 weeks though.

PS: I blow smoke like crazy
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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add some length to your SRI and get your block fixed and watch what happens.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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One other little Problem is the Vtec doesnt Crack anymore. It just rolls into it?? Im not familar with these cams so any info will help. And im still thinking the compression is a little low 210 across the board??


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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4ev-Rnoob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One other little Problem is the Vtec doesnt Crack anymore.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goforbroke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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am I missing something
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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yep, it's not supposed to "crack" once it's tuned. It should be a smooth transition.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Red_SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yep, it's not supposed to "crack" once it's tuned. It should be a smooth transition.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok Thanks One problem solved
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