I have and 2000 LS. I want to put a new head but I dont know which one would be a better swap, Or should I just wait and do a GSR swap? OR any swap? As of right now My car has 117k miles, and it still run good stock. I dont want to do a swap yet because the mileage is somewhat low for a swap. so what do yall think I should do? Swap the head or save up for a swap? Oh yeah how much would an H22 swap cost around?

 

Read some in the FAQ to learn more about VTEC heads and LS/VTEC.

 

B16 head would be better than a gsr. But type r will be better than all. Seeing that your ls has low milage, don't do a swap. Just get a b16 tranny and with some mods under the hood. Like intake, intake manifold, headers, good clutch and piping and for sure your car will be a type r killer. CUZ MINE IS.!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16 head would be better than a gsr.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How is a b16 head better then a Gsr? With how close they are, it really comes down to availability and preference.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like intake, intake manifold, headers, good clutch and piping</TD></TR></TABLE>

So spend close to 1k for all that stuff, gain maybe 10 hp, and you need a new clutch?


OP, do this...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Read some in the FAQ to learn more about VTEC heads and LS/VTEC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

The b16 tranny alone with the ls motor gives u a second faster. I went from 15.5 to 14.6 with the tranny at the tracks. Im only speaking from experience. But its up to you. I still say b16 head is much better than gsr. Once again, im only speaking from experience. And I don't care wat anyone else says.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The b16 tranny alone with the ls motor gives u a second faster. I went from 15.5 to 14.6 with the tranny at the tracks. Im only speaking from experience. But its up to you. I still say b16 head is much better than gsr. Once again, im only speaking from experience. And I don't care wat anyone else says.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

well that makes you a moron. your car is def not a type r killer. type r tranny owns the b16 tranny..LSD! and the gsr head will yeild a little higher compression due to the smaller combustion chambers......

mistik is clearly a clown dont listen to that

 

GSR HEAD out flows the b16, and will add .2 compression, on top of that you will make more power stock for stock with a gsr head.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im a moron? No ur a moron. I never said the b16 tranny is better than a type r tranny. I said if u but a b16 tranny in a ls, it'll be a type r killer. Now have u ever ran a type with ur ls???? I guess not. Cuz ur ls is probably f*cking slow. I got a ls with jdm b16 tranny and I took out many type r. Like I said, once again, im only speaking from experience. So go f*ck yourself slow a** LSracing94.</TD></TR></TABLE>

1-3rd gear is the same as the type-r tranny, the only difference is the
Tranny Code S80 Y21/S21/S4C Y21/Y80/S80/S4C S80/Y80
S80
YS1
Y1
S1/J1 S1/YS1
Chassis Grade JDM 98-01 ITR US 92-01
Delsol (B16A)
99+ Si coupe US 97-01 ITR
JDM 95-97 ITR
JDM 92-00 SiR/CTR US 94-01 GS-R
JDM 93.5-01 SiR/SiG US 94+ LS/GS/
Spec.Ed. JDM 92-93
Integra RSi/XSi
US 92-93 GSR JDM 89-91
civic/crx SiR JDM 90-91
Integra RSi/XSi US 90-93
Integra RS/LS/GS
Spec.Ed.
Tranny Type Hydro Hydro Hydro Hydro Hydro Cable Cable Cable Cable
1st 3.230 3.230 3.230 3.230 3.230 3.307 3.166 3.230 3.230
2nd 2.105 2.105 2.105 1.900
1.900
2.105
2.052 2.105 1.900
3rd 1.458 1.458 1.458 1.360 1.269 1.459 1.416 1.458 1.269
4th 1.034 1.107 1.107 1.034 0.966 1.107 1.103 1.107 0.966
5th 0.787 0.848/0.875-99+Si only 0.848 0.787 0.714 0.875 0.870 0.848 0.742
Reverse 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000
Final Drive 4.785 4.400/ *4.266-99+Si only 4.400 4.400 4.266

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im a moron? No ur a moron. I never said the b16 tranny is better than a type r tranny. I said if u but a b16 tranny in a ls, it'll be a type r killer. Now have u ever ran a type with ur ls???? I guess not. Cuz ur ls is probably f*cking slow. I got a ls with jdm b16 tranny and I took out many type r. Like I said, once again, im only speaking from experience. So go f*ck yourself slow a** LSracing94.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ohhhh, so a b16 tranny, also makes up the difference of hp, of about 60 almost?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im a moron? No ur a moron. I never said the b16 tranny is better than a type r tranny. I said if u but a b16 tranny in a ls, it'll be a type r killer. Now have u ever ran a type with ur ls???? I guess not. Cuz ur ls is probably f*cking slow. I got a ls with jdm b16 tranny and I took out many type r. Like I said, once again, im only speaking from experience. So go f*ck yourself slow a** LSracing94.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah...not going to fly here.

 

gsr head way bettter than b16

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im a moron... I never said the b16 tranny is better than a type r tranny. I said if u but a b16 tranny in a ls, it'll be a type r killer. Now have u ever ran a type R with ur ls???? I guess not. Cuz ur ls is probably f*cking slow. I got a ls with jdm b16 tranny and I took out many type r. Like I said, once again, im only speaking from experience. So go f*ck yourself slow a** LSracing94.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1-3rd gear is the same as the type-r tranny, the only difference is the
Tranny Code S80 Y21/S21/S4C Y21/Y80/S80/S4C S80/Y80
S80
YS1
Y1
S1/J1 S1/YS1
Chassis Grade JDM 98-01 ITR US 92-01
Delsol (B16A)
99+ Si coupe US 97-01 ITR
JDM 95-97 ITR
JDM 92-00 SiR/CTR US 94-01 GS-R
JDM 93.5-01 SiR/SiG US 94+ LS/GS/
Spec.Ed. JDM 92-93
Integra RSi/XSi
US 92-93 GSR JDM 89-91
civic/crx SiR JDM 90-91
Integra RSi/XSi US 90-93
Integra RS/LS/GS
Spec.Ed.
Tranny Type Hydro Hydro Hydro Hydro Hydro Cable Cable Cable Cable
1st 3.230 3.230 3.230 3.230 3.230 3.307 3.166 3.230 3.230
2nd 2.105 2.105 2.105 1.900
1.900
2.105
2.052 2.105 1.900
3rd 1.458 1.458 1.458 1.360 1.269 1.459 1.416 1.458 1.269
4th 1.034 1.107 1.107 1.034 0.966 1.107 1.103 1.107 0.966
5th 0.787 0.848/0.875-99+Si only 0.848 0.787 0.714 0.875 0.870 0.848 0.742
Reverse 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000
Final Drive 4.785 4.400/ *4.266-99+Si only 4.400 4.400 4.266
</TD></TR></TABLE>

mistik_whatever = pwnt. end of thread

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u like to talk sh*t on me huh? well F*ck you uglylikeshit!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

nobodys talking ****.. i'm saying that based on what your saying and the fact that alot of very mild b16/type-rs finish the 1/4 either at the end of 3rd, or shifting into 4th 1-3 is the same.. a type-r tranny and b16 tranny is the same thing except for the FD

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u like to talk sh*t on me huh? well F*ck you uglylikeshit!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I suggest you read the rules or GTFO!

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2258865

It may make your membership last a little longer...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSracing94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well that makes you a moron. your car is def not a type r killer. type r tranny owns the b16 tranny..LSD! and the gsr head will yeild a little higher compression due to the smaller combustion chambers......

mistik is clearly a clown dont listen to that </TD></TR></TABLE>

x2 mistik must be short for mistake because his post is worthless. flow charts exist on both heads, they are virtually the same. the GSR head just has a smaller chamber and different intake port opening. b16 heads are easier to find in my area , not sure about yours. i would use whichever is cheaper. just buy the proper piston for the compression you want. also MEASURE your head if you change the valves or do any port work in the chamber. it will effect the compression greatly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im a moron? No ur a moron. I never said the b16 tranny is better than a type r tranny. I said if u but a b16 tranny in a ls, it'll be a type r killer. Now have u ever ran a type with ur ls???? I guess not. Cuz ur ls is probably f*cking slow. I got a ls with jdm b16 tranny and I took out many type r. Like I said, once again, im only speaking from experience. So go f*ck yourself slow a** LSracing94.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol this is great..i guess he can't read my sig.
and he honestly thinks his LS is beating Type R cause he switched the tranny to a b16 hahahahhahahahahaha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSracing94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

lol this is great..i guess he can't read my sig.
and he honestly thinks his LS is beating Type R cause he switched the tranny to a b16 hahahahhahahahahaha</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed! he's probably taking on other ls integras w/ itr badges, hahaha.....

 

around how much does an H22 swap usually cost? or GSR swap? and the pros and cons Thank you.

 

you can find that info here.
http://www.hmotorsonline.com

 

Hold up a minute...I never said the b16 tranny is better than the type r tranny...I know for a fact the type r tranny is better...1st 2nd and 3rd gears are the same as type r. im just sayin I took out a couple of type r's with my set up. if u have a ls with a b16 tranny u know what im talkin about...


Now one question for all u people that think that im a moron. DO U HAVE A LS WITH A B16 TRANNY? If u don't then don't say anything about me being a moron cuz u don't never ran a type r with this setup so shut up. Cuz I have a ls with a jdm b16 tranny and yes it has LSD...TYPE R KILLER!!!!!! Now im not hating on type r. I love type r!!!

 

What RPM do you shift at?

 

Who me? I shift at 7500 rpm. Some how it lets me. But when I had a ls tranny in there it pulls me back at 7200 rpm. Y u ask?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hold up a minute...I never said the b16 tranny is better than the type r tranny...I know for a fact the type r tranny is better...1st 2nd and 3rd gears are the same as type r. im just sayin I took out a couple of type r's with my set up. if u have a ls with a b16 tranny u know what im talkin about...


Now one question for all u people that think that im a moron. DO U HAVE A LS WITH A B16 TRANNY? If u don't then don't say anything about me being a moron cuz u don't never ran a type r with this setup so shut up. Cuz I have a ls with a jdm b16 tranny and yes it has LSD...TYPE R KILLER!!!!!! Now im not hating on type r. I love type r!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

wow you have no idea. not everyone wants to drag race their car. A b16 head and a Gs-r head are equally good. IT all depends on what he wants. If its just for vtec and fun driving I would personally go with the b16. I've owned an LS, b16, b18c, h22,h23 and k20 and they all have their pros and cons.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who me? I shift at 7500 rpm. Some how it lets me. But when I had a ls tranny in there it pulls me back at 7200 rpm. Y u ask?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I ask because B16's are meant to rev pretty high and I don't see how you can take advantage of the B16 gearing when you're shifting at that low of an RPM. When you shift at that RPM how low does your RPM drop?
I believe a stock ITR will still be in 2nd when your already in 3rd, perhaps ready to shift into 4th.
What gear do you finish 1/4 mile in?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hold up a minute...I never said the b16 tranny is better than the type r tranny...I know for a fact the type r tranny is better...1st 2nd and 3rd gears are the same as type r. im just sayin I took out a couple of type r's with my set up. if u have a ls with a b16 tranny u know what im talkin about...


Now one question for all u people that think that im a moron. DO U HAVE A LS WITH A B16 TRANNY? If u don't then don't say anything about me being a moron cuz u don't never ran a type r with this setup so shut up. Cuz I have a ls with a jdm b16 tranny and yes it has LSD...TYPE R KILLER!!!!!! Now im not hating on type r. I love type r!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

usdm itrs run 195 to the crank, ls motors run 142 to the crank. i dont see you taking itrs on your setup, especially with a b16 tranny. i call bs on taking ITR's, most ITR owners think rice is rediculous and would rather save their effort along with your embarassment when it comes to street racing.
venture into the ITR forum and and try saying that.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ruffrhyder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I ask because B16's are meant to rev pretty high and I don't see how you can take advantage of the B16 gearing when you're shifting at that low of an RPM. When you shift at that RPM how low does your RPM drop?
I believe a stock ITR will still be in 2nd when your already in 3rd, perhaps ready to shift into 4th.
What gear do you finish 1/4 mile in?</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mistik_DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16 head would be better than a gsr. But type r will be better than all. Seeing that your ls has low milage, don't do a swap. Just get a b16 tranny and with some mods under the hood. Like intake, intake manifold, headers, good clutch and piping and for sure your car will be a type r killer. CUZ MINE IS.!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

these kind of posts **** me off. i will steam cook you.