Poorman R Build! Have a few questions!
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I currently have a b16a2 head with ITR cams and stock valvetrain. Just bought a 81mm GSR block, it has the stock rods and pistons still in the motor. I want to upgrade to something fresher. This is gonna be a daily driver, so i'm not looking to make 200+hp or anything like that, just something fun to drive with a little pep. As far as the bottom end goes I just want to put some higher compression pistons in. Looking for opinions on something decent, i'm coming from being boosted so I want a little power. I was thinking ITR or JDM b16 pistons which would yield a higher CP ratio, I want about 12:1. Should I leave the motor to stock bore or go to a 81.5mm or 82mm?
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Lol, never been done before.
Lol, never been done before.
haha yall are retarded! i would say 81.5mm RS PR3 pistons. you should be right around 11.8 or 11.85...something like that.ALSO! Arp 9mm rod bolts and you should be set for a fun/quick little ride
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thanks for the acutal help bro! to many know-it-alls and smart-asses on HT nowadays! Search does help, but all the threads I came up with are all Poorman R all out builds and what not, I just want something simple and fun.
Ok, I'm not trying to be rude, but if you had a b16 head and needed a block, why would you buy a GSR block? You can easily find a LS block for half the price and it will for sure make more power.
B16 pistons in a LS block with a b16 head and some good cams and header = 200whp
B16 heads are NOT superior to GSR heads despite popular belief. Any minor flow advantage the b16 head has at high rpms is overshadowed by the better flow characteristics of the gsr head at mid-rpms and the higher compression you would have from the gsr's smaller combustion chambers. Simply put, stock vs stock a gsr head will make more power than a b16 head every time.
B16 pistons in a LS block with a b16 head and some good cams and header = 200whp
B16 heads are NOT superior to GSR heads despite popular belief. Any minor flow advantage the b16 head has at high rpms is overshadowed by the better flow characteristics of the gsr head at mid-rpms and the higher compression you would have from the gsr's smaller combustion chambers. Simply put, stock vs stock a gsr head will make more power than a b16 head every time.
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lol
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=469492
lol
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=469492
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lol
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=469492
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Maybe you should read the thread you posted. GSR head = more compression and more agressive cams. Therefore more power. Use some logic before you try and make someone look dumb.
lol
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=469492
</TD></TR></TABLE>Maybe you should read the thread you posted. GSR head = more compression and more agressive cams. Therefore more power. Use some logic before you try and make someone look dumb.
ok here we go with the thread whoring. yall have pissing contests in other ppls posts. TO THE OP! PM me man if you need some help and ill do my best to try to help you
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what the hell does that have to do with the questions I asked in the first post. Congrats i'm glad you know that I can get LS blocks cheaper than GSR. But I bought this block from a personal friend for cheaper than any LS block. I'm not trying to make tons of power as previously stated just a tad bit quicker than it is now, with the 9:1 b16 block I have in the car now.
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Maybe you should read the thread you posted. GSR head = more compression and more agressive cams. Therefore more power. Use some logic before you try and make someone look dumb. </TD></TR></TABLE>
its .2 bump in compression(if that),only point im getting to is your starting the whole b16 head vs gsr head,and if u read the post hes using itr cams so who cares about the gsr cams
Maybe you should read the thread you posted. GSR head = more compression and more agressive cams. Therefore more power. Use some logic before you try and make someone look dumb. </TD></TR></TABLE>
its .2 bump in compression(if that),only point im getting to is your starting the whole b16 head vs gsr head,and if u read the post hes using itr cams so who cares about the gsr cams
here is my poorman r build....
b16a head with complete super tech valve springs
type-r manifold
type-r tb
stock gs-r cams
stock gs-r injectors
jdm civic type-r standard pistons
gs-r rods
gs-r crank
gs-r block
piece of sh(* dc headers with not cat
I made 165hp and 119 torque tuned by Parris Engine Dynamic (PED)
I don't know about going .20 over on our stock sleeve...let me know if you have any question...I drive this bad boy to work everyday on pump 91 octane gas...
b16a head with complete super tech valve springs
type-r manifold
type-r tb
stock gs-r cams
stock gs-r injectors
jdm civic type-r standard pistons
gs-r rods
gs-r crank
gs-r block
piece of sh(* dc headers with not cat
I made 165hp and 119 torque tuned by Parris Engine Dynamic (PED)
I don't know about going .20 over on our stock sleeve...let me know if you have any question...I drive this bad boy to work everyday on pump 91 octane gas...
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0.020" over on a stock sleeve is fine.
0.020" over on a stock sleeve is fine.
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Thats it, thats all you need. So when someone wants to make 200 hp, PM THIS GUY^^^ cuz he knows the secret.
Thats it, thats all you need. So when someone wants to make 200 hp, PM THIS GUY^^^ cuz he knows the secret.
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Thats it, thats all you need. So when someone wants to make 200 hp, PM THIS GUY^^^ cuz he knows the secret. </TD></TR></TABLE>
And I'm selling it for fitty nine nighty fye!
Thats it, thats all you need. So when someone wants to make 200 hp, PM THIS GUY^^^ cuz he knows the secret. </TD></TR></TABLE>
And I'm selling it for fitty nine nighty fye!
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And I'm selling it for fitty nine nighty fye!</TD></TR></TABLE>
And I'm selling it for fitty nine nighty fye!</TD></TR></TABLE>
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