I have a '95 civic with a B18B with this turbo kit https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1 and i have my ecu chipped and base maped with hondata s300. My car ran fine before i installed the turbo. Now when i start it it makes noise like its going to start but it won't. After trying to start it a few times i could smell fuel in the engine bay so it sould be getting fuel. I also know the starter is ok. One thing though is when i changed my spark plugs noticed some oil, more on the side that has the threads. So i changed the gasket which is what i think was the problem. I did a compression test like 2 or 3 months before i started the turbo project and it was fine. If i get it running then i plan to take it to get a leak down test and another compression test.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Modified by mike03,95civic at 3:15 PM 10/10/2008

 

Have you installed SManager on to a pc/laptop? In SManager, there are a number of "base maps" that you can open, I believe there is a B18A/B turbo map. Once you have opened a base map, save it as a different name. review the settings to make sure that the injector sizes, fuel pressure, etc reflect your physical settings. You then connect your computer to the ecu, turn your ignition to ON (do not start engine). Your SMAnager should have a connection to the ecu. When you "Upload" your map to the ECU, the ecu should have a led flashing red by the usb connection.

Once the upload is complete, you should be able to turn the ignition to "Off". If your ECU is loaded with a map, you should be able to start your car, granted your timing is set properly.

Hope this helps.

 

Thanks for the reply. I don't have SManager. I had my computer base mapped by xenocron for my specific motor and injectors so it sould be good.

 

What injectors ru using. What size r they. Are you getting spark? Did u wire the injectors properly. and is a resistor box installed. (if the injectors require one)

 

they are precision 580cc saturated injectors. how can i check to see if i'm getting spark?

 

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Pull a plug and ground it somewhere. Crank the engine.

 

this happened to me, i could smell gas, your prob. not getting a spark, to check it, just pull your plugs out and leave it hooked up to a wire and hold the tip on a ground and have someone try to crank your car. if no spark them im gonna guess its your distr. coil bc thats wat happened to me.

 

Thanks for the replies. So the turbo install does not have anything to do with it. When i get a chance I'll check to see if I'm getting spark.
If anyone has any other ideas to what might be wrong please let me know.

 

and uh.. something stupid that happened to me, get your firing order correct.

check all your engine ground wires.. and what's your battery voltage?

 

I have these clips that hold the wires together, so the order should be good. I thought my battery might be going bad but i had the voltage checked and was told it was good. I got a new battery any way though. Maybe it's the connection to the battery thats not as good. I checked my grounds before but i'll double check them when i get a chance.
Keep the suggestions coming

 

Would oil effect the spark plug?

 

just becuase you have the clips holding the holding the wires doesn't necessarily mean you have them in the right order. 1-3-4-2 ...

1 being the bottom left as you look at the dizzy cap. if there is oil on your spark plugs, you may have a different problem. your valve cover seals?


(3) 0 (4) 0

(1) 0 (2) 0

 

What i ment by that was the clips held the wires in order from what they were before. So the order i put them in was the same order as when the car was running. I will check it out though. thanks for going through the order for me. I had some work done on my car before where they took off the valve cover and didn't replace the seals so in the middle of putting in the turbo i replace the seals with new ones.
If there is still oil in there would that effect whether or not the spark plugs are getting spark?

 

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uhh...the only precision 580cc injectors i found are low impedance. (which means they are low resistance and you need a resistor box) just because you can smell the gas dont mean your getting any into your motor. I would check up on that. Also if your injectors work you would be able to hear them turn on when you turn the key. If not, they dont work. Im using 525cc precision with my setup and as far as i know they were the biggest you can get that are high impedance.

 

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Yup, Precision doesn't make a 580cc high impedance. At least, their website doesn't mention anything about them.

 

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Yup, Precision doesn't make a 580cc high impedance. At least, their website doesn't mention anything about them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly thats his problem. He doesnt have a resistor box wired. Thats IF he actually has precision 580cc. Who knows.

 

Your right someone else also just mentioned that to me. When i get home i'll have to see if they put a part number on the case. This means the HT sponser that sold them to me either lied or was confused when I was saying I wanted saterated injectors at about that cc. Thanks for letting me know. I'll check it out and post what i find.


Modified by mike03,95civic at 10:06 AM 10/3/2008

 

Check to make sure your TPS sensor and MAP sensor aren't backwards. They are the same size. I couldn't get my motor to start either and it sounded exactly as you are describing...this turned out to be my problem.

 

I checked the firing order and it is correct. Today i will have time to check to see if i am getting spark. I checked on the injectors and found a part number and looked it up and it says they are 650cc injectors even though i ordered 580's. Oh well, so with precision 650cc injectors do i need a resistor box?

 

it depends if the injectors are saturated or peak-hold. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but saturated injectors do not need the resistor box.

 

I looked on a web site and it said 650cc's are High Impedence. Does that show whether or not you need a R/B?

 

So i looked and from my understanding i do not need a resister box for 650 injectors. So my base map is for 580cc but i have 650cc so i know it could be the reason but how likely is it that this is causing my car not to start?

 

the injector specs in the map is very unlikely the cause of your car not starting. Definitely check your plugs to see if you're getting any spark.

take one plug out at a time, connect it to the plug wire and ground it to your valve cover. have someone crank your ignition. should you not see any spark, you've got a problem with your coil. gl.

someone else mentioned to check your MAP and TPS connectors as well.

 

Yeah i'm going to need it. I'll check for spark. MAP & TPS is a good idea but i never removed them during the turbo install.

 

Well i check to see if i could hear the fuel in the injecters and i could. Then i checked to see if I am getting spark and I am not. I also tried different spark plugs and I still do not have spark. So what do you think the problem is?