Modified by Teamdiesel at 4:56 PM 10/1/2008


Modified by Teamdiesel at 5:41 PM 10/1/2008

 

What is up with you and breaking stuff?

Cylinders 2 and 3 look like there may be coolant leaking into the cylinder. The fact that i spot a little bit of milkshake in your water jacket only strengthens this suspicion.

 

are you running straight anti-freeze. that stuff can be corrosive,but i dont know if would cause those chips so fast. pm goldeneagle about it those looks like his older sleeves.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is up with you and breaking stuff?

Cylinders 2 and 3 look like there may be coolant leaking into the cylinder. The fact that i spot a little bit of milkshake in your water jacket only strengthens this suspicion.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know man, I am just bad lucked I guess . I did a compression test before I took off the head and got from 4-1, 265 255 270 275. I also think coolant was in my cylinders because I saw liquid on piston 4 & 3 through the spark plug hole .

 

When you compression tested this motor what were the results?

Also, it looks like you running a lean condition. Was the block guard installed before you machined the sleeves?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you compression tested this motor what were the results?

Also, it looks like you running a lean condition. Was the block guard installed before you machined the sleeves? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Looks like someone hammered in that block guard too hard

obviously.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is up with you and breaking stuff?

Cylinders 2 and 3 look like there may be coolant leaking into the cylinder. The fact that i spot a little bit of milkshake in your water jacket only strengthens this suspicion.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i rofled on this like two mins now.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Looks like someone hammered in that block guard too hard

obviously.</TD></TR></TABLE>

those are GE godzilla iron sleeves. not a block guard.

looks really strange that they are corroding around the edges like that....what was the coolant mixture running in that engine? how often was the coolant replaced?

 

Maybe your sleeves sank a bit, have it decked, put a new gasket, and condition the water correctly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teamdiesel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As the topics says, I took my head off today to shave it for a bit mor compression only to find this . Sleeves seem to have a few chips on the edges.


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Maybe its just the pic, but it looks like the sleeve between the cylinders is begining to fail. That would be a bigger consern than the chips on the jacket side of the sleeve.

 

what kind of ECT temperatures is this motor seeing?

 

If a sleeve(s) sunk, you should have noticed the headgasket leaking. GE has a good rep for their sleeves...but I still might contact them to see if they have any ideas.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

those are GE godzilla iron sleeves. not a block guard.
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Thanks for clarifiying.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kind of ECT temperatures is this motor seeing?</TD></TR></TABLE>

He did have a problem with overheating and headgaskets.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kind of ECT temperatures is this motor seeing?</TD></TR></TABLE>
At full operation, I think 200-210.

 

how would I know if a sleeve has sunk?

 

Team, did you get your motor tuned yet?

 

since that last dyno sheet I posted I drove it casually to work a few times and parked it to use my other car. I just decided to take off the head to shave it today, only to find the above.

 

Agreeing with Combustion Contraption in that in this picture there is def. milkshake in the water jacket, leaking hg could easily have caused any of your issues.

someone mentioned you were having overheating issues, have you checked the mating surface of the head for "flatness"?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teamdiesel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
At full operation, I think 200-210.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i take it you mean at WOT conditions like going down the strip. I dunno, thats not hot enough to do serious damage like mess up a headgasket but thats pretty hot for short spurts. I can only manage to reach those temperatures if i am sitting in traffic or on the dyno.

 

Try using distilled water. every grocery store carries it. tap water and hose water have all types of nasty things in them that cause rust and corrosion.

whats interesting is that its sleeved and O-ringed and still leaking. I guess sleeving is not fully perfected yet.

 

just run the distilled water when its not cold season,you wont get corrosion and the motor will run cooler.

 

I think 200 is a safe area. That's about when your fans should kick on. My B16 actually ran at about 165 which I was not happy about but not uch I could do about it. Now with the B20 and a half radiator its ~200.

 

if definitely within the safe zone, just a little higher than i was expecting.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

those are GE godzilla iron sleeves. not a block guard.

looks really strange that they are corroding around the edges like that....what was the coolant mixture running in that engine? how often was the coolant replaced?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thx for the clear up , from those pictures i can't see its actually apart of the sleeve lol.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try using distilled water. every grocery store carries it. tap water and hose water have all types of nasty things in them that cause rust and corrosion.

whats interesting is that its sleeved and O-ringed and still leaking. I guess sleeving is not fully perfected yet. </TD></TR></TABLE>

is it ok to mix this with coolet? i'm just asking, i have no need for this but just in case this is searched ever, if you already have coolet should u mix it, or just drain your cooling system completely.