ok so im planing on buying a boosted gsr it has the gsr tranny can i swap it out and put a type r instead???

 

yea

 

awsome thanks man.. now would it make a diffrence from the gsr

 

type r has lsd and a different final drive

 

huge difference, ITR trans is LSD and closer gear ratio then GSR. Will be a day-night difference.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpEeDyX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">type r has lsd and a different final drive </TD></TR></TABLE>

that depends on which ITR trans he gets. all US ITR trans had 4.4 final drives, which is the same final drive thats in the GSR.

the 98+ JDM ITR had the 4.78 FD

id honestly just get a new ITR LSD and just put that in your GSR trans if you're running a boosted setup

 

keep the Gsr trans if you are planning on boosting it. The gears a little longer, which keep the car in boost a little longer.

ITR transmissions are very good for all motor applications because they are quick reving and the gears are short. They help the motor get up to vtec quicker.

But yea, the best thing you can do is buy an ITR LSD or a quaife and put that in the transmission that you already have. IT would be way more beneficial to your setup...

 

ok run a turbo gsr with an itr tranny against the same turbo gsr with a gsr tranny and the ITR trans'ed version will win everytime. you won't run out of gears with an ITR trans on any 1/4 strip unless you have like 500whp or more.

you longer gears = more boost time guys are morons.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you longer gears = more boost time guys are morons.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spec R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that depends on which ITR trans he gets. all US ITR trans had 4.4 final drives, which is the same final drive thats in the GSR.

the 98+ JDM ITR had the 4.78 FD

id honestly just get a new ITR LSD and just put that in your GSR trans if you're running a boosted setup</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a 96 jdm itr engine had it on my ek someone crashed into me so im looking to buy a 1.97L sleeved gsr with 15 psi boost it wont cause any damage to the tranny i f swap it out with my type r

 

i thought the usdm type r and gsr used the same gearing? both have s80 wd4 on them right? the itr just had the lsd. there is a sweet vid on youtube that a forum member pointed out to me on the install. not simple but anyone who is skilled enough to do something like set cam clearance should be able to do it.

 

what about a b16 gear box with a jdm dc2 sir b18c non type r LSD

 

The ITR is alot of fun to drive around on the streets, but the high RPM's on the freeway sucks.
Just depends on what you want to do with it.
For drag, it depends on where you want to be when you cross the line. The ITR doesn't fit well with anything over ~350HP, because you will need to shft to 5th before you cross the line, but it does launch really well with the LSD.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thewrai6th &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The ITR is alot of fun to drive around on the streets, but the high RPM's on the freeway sucks.
Just depends on what you want to do with it.
For drag, it depends on where you want to be when you cross the line. The ITR doesn't fit well with anything over ~350HP, because you will need to shft to 5th before you cross the line, but it does launch really well with the LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>


really?? so the gsr tranny is better for drag, thats my type of racing drag

 

you know, the only true way to find out whats better for you at this point is to try both options out. i can picture you putting in the ITR trans and loving it, but that doesnt necessarily mean that you wouldnt love the GSR also.

 

Gear Ratios for USIM B18B1 (LS) / B18C1 (GS-R) / B18C5 (Type R):

1st 3.230 / 3.230 / 3.230
2nd 1.900 / 1.900 / 2.105
3rd 1.289 / 1.360 / 1.458
4th 0.966 / 1.034 / 1.107
5th 0.714 / 0.787 / 0.848
Final Drive 4.266 / 4.400 / 4.400
Reverse 3.000 / 3.000 / 3.000

Having used both trannies at the same time (owning both a GS-R and an ITR), I would NOT describe the difference as "night and day". For example, comparing the GS-R with the Type R, both have the same gearing in first gear; by the time you reach fifth gear, at 4000 RPM you'll be going around 75 mph in the Type R, 80 mph in the GS-R. Not a huge difference.

However, if you need to replace the tranny anyway (which we recently did with our GS-R), you may as well get the Type R tranny, since they're exactly the same price and you get the LSD with the Type R one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Gear Ratios for USIM B18B1 (LS) / B18C1 (GS-R) / B18C5 (Type R):

1st 3.230 / 3.230 / 3.230
2nd 1.900 / 1.900 / 2.105
3rd 1.289 / 1.360 / 1.458
4th 0.966 / 1.034 / 1.107
5th 0.714 / 0.787 / 0.848
Final Drive 4.266 / 4.400 / 4.400
Reverse 3.000 / 3.000 / 3.000

Having used both trannies at the same time (owning both a GS-R and an ITR), I would NOT describe the difference as "night and day". For example, comparing the GS-R with the Type R, both have the same gearing in first gear; by the time you reach fifth gear, at 4000 RPM you'll be going around 75 mph in the Type R, 80 mph in the GS-R. Not a huge difference.

However, if you need to replace the tranny anyway (which we recently did with our GS-R), you may as well get the Type R tranny, since they're exactly the same price and you get the LSD with the Type R one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's what i was scratching my head about. when people talk about the different ratios it's like: are you serious?

 

ok this is the tranny that the ek has

GSR trans with Quaife LSD
Exedy Twin Disc clutch
GM Syncromesh
2000 civic SI shift forks with prothane bushings
LS 5th gear


should i still put the type r tranny??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECROAR96typeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok this is the tranny that the ek has

GSR trans with Quaife LSD
Exedy Twin Disc clutch
GM Syncromesh
2000 civic SI shift forks with prothane bushings
LS 5th gear


should i still put the type r tranny?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

no thats a dope tranny setup..keep it

 

If you're serious about performance, that LS 5th is going to kill you.

 

kill me as in???

 

Its going to kill performance for you when you hit 5th. 5th in an LS is SLOOOOW.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompanyFlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its going to kill performance for you when you hit 5th. 5th in an LS is SLOOOOW.</TD></TR></TABLE> any comments on that i dont know anything about the ls model

 

yeah i was say to keep the gsr one. the ls one is good but you're going to need a lot of boost to make up for the 5th gear.

 

its at 15psi street tuned