more power from my gsr??
Hows it going... im looking to get a lil more power out of my 99 gsr motor this winter since i plan on pulling the motor and doing a few misc gaskets and stuff. I picked up a set of jdm itr pistons for next to nothing so i can put those in. What else could i do to compliment those? i appreciate any help...
Modified by wreckeddc4 at 7:29 PM 9/21/2008
Modified by wreckeddc4 at 7:29 PM 9/21/2008
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wreckeddc4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hows it going... im looking to get a lil more power out of my 99 gsr motor this winter since i plan on pulling the motor and doing a few misc gaskets and stuff. I picked up a set of jdm itr pistons for next to nothing so i can put those in. What else could i do to compliment those? i appreciate any help...
Modified by wreckeddc4 at 7:29 PM 9/21/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not really to add power, but for added security, you should install ARP rod bolts.
Modified by wreckeddc4 at 7:29 PM 9/21/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not really to add power, but for added security, you should install ARP rod bolts.
I was gonna do an intake manifold and bigger tb, and do itr cams if i can find some cheaper ones... but how much of a difference would i see between b16 cams and itr cams? Cuz i have a set of b16 cams already. I was also planning on just using an apexi neo to adjust fuel trim... i know its not the best but it is cheaper than converting to obd 1 buying an ecu then getting hondata or something... Or would that be a waste of time with the stuff i have?
Switching to B16 cams are not going to be beneficial to you. If you buy an IM(or for that matter serious about making more power), tuning will be key. JG/Edelbrock Pro Flow header/DC 4-1/R/Toda/SMSP header with a 2.5 exhaust. If you want to add cams, you have a TON of options but no "best." Search around here on the board and you will see allot of camshaft discussions.
ok how about a semi budget build that will get me just a bit more power than stock... im mainly looking for suggestions and options... also.... i need to be obd 2 compliant at least once a year for inspection.... what aftermarket intake is still compatible with egr? i saw that skunk2 dosent...
thanks for help and ideas
thanks for help and ideas
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what you should do is just build yourself a poorman's type r in this case. gsr motor with itr internals. upgrade your intake manifold to whichever u prefer and get an itr tb. so basically itr pistons camshafts itr valvesprings and retainers. if you keep searching on here you could find a set of 00-01 itr cams or ctr cams.which are basically the same. and look for a set of valvesprings and retainers and you'll be set to go since u already have the pistons
i was also wondering about tuning... the car is 1 99 so i need to pass emissions once a year. is there any way to stay with an obd2 computer or is there a good piggy back that i can use? or is going to a hondata on obd1 about the best way to go?
you could stay obd2 with all type r internals in your gsr motor...basically its a type r so you will need to run on a type r ignition map...so if you want just buy an obd2 type r ecu and it should be plug and play...with non aftermarket products your car should run fine without a tune...but getting a tune is the key...which you will most likely need a wideband for....
this is all good info...
im still not clear on one thing... i read that i cant use an aftermarket intake with good results because aftermarket ims dont support egr. But i didnt think the gsrs had an egr... if it doesn't that would make everything easy, i would go with itr internals a skunk2 intake mani a hytech tri y replica header and a tuned obd 1 ecu and figure out inspections later... how does that sound for just a mild daily driver?
im still not clear on one thing... i read that i cant use an aftermarket intake with good results because aftermarket ims dont support egr. But i didnt think the gsrs had an egr... if it doesn't that would make everything easy, i would go with itr internals a skunk2 intake mani a hytech tri y replica header and a tuned obd 1 ecu and figure out inspections later... how does that sound for just a mild daily driver?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wreckeddc4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">figure out inspections later...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you talking DEQ or what?
As far as the IM deal, a stock gsr motor uses "butterflies" in the stock IM, your ecu is made to use those. When you bolt on a aftermarket IM, you eliminate the butterflies...in turn causing you to lose power unless you use engine management and tune that portion out of it. Hence the reason I said:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you buy an IM(or for that matter serious about making more power), tuning will be key.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you talking DEQ or what?
As far as the IM deal, a stock gsr motor uses "butterflies" in the stock IM, your ecu is made to use those. When you bolt on a aftermarket IM, you eliminate the butterflies...in turn causing you to lose power unless you use engine management and tune that portion out of it. Hence the reason I said:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you buy an IM(or for that matter serious about making more power), tuning will be key.</TD></TR></TABLE>
skunk 2 stage 2 cams, itr pistons, itr valvletrain, blox intake manifold, skunk 2 62 mm throttle body, rc engineering 330cc injectors, and a heated 75 shot and your good for 257 HP lol i would know ran an 11.9 on slicks and a b16 trans
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.....because every chasis/tire/tire preasure/dyno/tuner/driver/conditions are the same. Listen to that guy^^^, he's living PROOF.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.....because every chasis/tire/tire preasure/dyno/tuner/driver/conditions are the same. Listen to that guy^^^, he's living PROOF.</TD></TR></TABLE> x3
either way if you want to add modifications then you'll need a different ecu besides ur stock gsr ecu. Stock gsr ecu's are only good for direct bolts on such as headers intake and exhaust. Anything internal for new manifold i suggest you get at least a p28 and take it to a shop to get you a base map besides the gsr map so your car wont run and idle like shyt.
Right on... i pretty much knew i would need to do that.... the only thing i may do different is run a itr ecu.... whatever one i find cheaper cuz its gonna just be stock itr internals just minus the factory head port
So i guess i got all i need... thanks guys
PM me if you have p28 or something similar to unload
So i guess i got all i need... thanks guys
PM me if you have p28 or something similar to unload
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