i recently bought a 93 civic ex for 600 and some things inside dont work
the gauge cluster lights up like the little battery symbol and stuff but the spedo tach fuel gauge and temp gauge dont work.
the dash clock wont turn on, turn signals wont turn on.
the passenger window wont go down the kid had it hooked up to a toggle switch and was working.
ive checked the fuses but none are blown, bad or missing.

any ideas as to what is going on?
i started taking off the door panels should i start taking apart the dash?


Modified by bprsk8r4272 at 9:36 AM 9/28/2008


Modified by bprsk8r4272 at 6:58 PM 10/6/2008


Modified by bprsk8r4272 at 4:51 PM 10/19/2008

 

find out why the speakers and window dont go down the wires that go in to the clip for the door wire harness some of them broke off

anyone know where i can get the pins that go in the door wire harness clip? need them for both parts of the clip

 

if i were u id just rip off the wire with the broken pin and butt connect it to the other end.

 

i dont want to unless i really have too i found a place that sells the pins its http://www.digikey.com/ i just have to look around there to find the right ones

 

ah i see u want a clean setup.hope u find it.

 

man...sounds like a mess!! i say right now a Fluke meter is going to be your best friend

 

i didn't get the pins for the clip so i bought some male and female quick disconnects.

i found some rigged wires that go to the ecu i think one is the obd1 plug cause i cant find it anywhere near the ecu(i'll update this post wit pics tomorrow) and i took out the gauge cluster everything was plugged in i wonder if its some wires messed up to the ecu

also i just won a p28 ecu on ebay so i'll be wiring up the vtec soon.


Modified by bprsk8r4272 at 6:32 AM 10/16/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bprsk8r4272 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also i just won a p28 ecu on ebay so i'll be wiring up the vtec soon.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If its an EX it should already be wired for vtec, they came from the factory with a D16Z6 and P28 ECU.

 

someone put a d15b7 in there with the stock z6 head(i believe) and a p06 ecu i have the plugs but i dont see the wires i think they were de pinned ima take a closer look today though

okay heres the hacked wire

d14(PHO2S O2 sensor) is wired to the ecu and hacked into a15(a/c compressor clutch) which is still wired to the ecu also
B2(ground to shields for CYP & TDC) is wired to the ecu and some bare wire in the same set of B wires the bare wire is not wired to the ecu

*edit* is this the right ecu pinout?

A1 BRN INJ1 INJ1
A2 YEL INJ4 INJ4
A3 RED INJ2 INJ2
A4 ORN/WHT VTS VTEC solenoid
A5 LT BLU INJ3 INJ3
A6 ORN/BLK PO2SHTC O2 sensor (heating element)
A7 GRN/YEL FLR1 fuel pump
A8 (empty)
A9 GRN/WHT IACV IAC valve
A10 (empty)
A11 (empty)
A12 YEL/GRN FANC Fan Output
A13 GRN/ORN MIL MIL (check engine light)
A14 (empty)
A15 BLK/RED ACC (a/c compressor clutch)
A16 WHT/YEL ALT C alternator
A17
A18 (empty)
A19 (a/t trans only)
A20 RED PCS EVAP purge control solenoid
A21 RED/GRN ICM ICM
A22 (empty)
A23 BLK PG1 ground
A24 BLK PG2 ground
A25 YEL/BLK IGP2 to main relay and to gound for o
A26 BRN/BLK LG1 gound
B1 YEL/BLK IGP2 to pin A25
B2 BRN/BLK LG2 ground to shields for CYP & TDC
B3 (a/t trans only)
B4 (a/t trans only)
B5 BLU/RED ACS a/c switch
B6 (empty)
B7 (a/t trans only)
B8 BRN/RED PSPSW PSP switch
B9 BLU/WHT clutch interlock switch
B10 YEL/BLU VSS vehicle speed sensor
B11 ORN CYP P CYP -P
B12 WHT CYP M CYP -M
B13 ORN/BLU TDC P TDC -P
B14 WHT/BLU TDC M TDC -M
B15 BLU/GRN CKP P CKP -P
B16 BLU/YEL CKP M CKP -M
D1 WHT/BLU VBU Back Up Power
D2 GRN/WHT BKSW brake switch
D3 KS Knock Sensor
D4 BRN SCS service check connector
D5 (empty)
D6 ORN/BLU VTM VTEC pressure switch
D7 LT BLU TXD/RXD (data link connector)
D8 (empty)
D9 PNK ALT F alternator
D10 GRN/RED ELD electric load detector
D11 RED/BLU TPS TPS Signal
D12 YEL/GRN
D13 RED/WHT ECT ECT sensor
D14 WHT PHO2S O2 sensor
D15 RED/YEL IAT IAT sensor
D16 WHT/YEL VREF VREF
D17 WHT MAP Map Signal
D18 (a/t trans only)
D19 YEL/GRN VCC1 MAP 5V
D20 YEL/WHT VCC2 TPS 5V
D21 GRN/BLU SG1 MAP GND
D22 GRN/WHT SG2 TPS GND


Modified by bprsk8r4272 at 7:17 PM 10/16/2008


Modified by bprsk8r4272 at 7:18 PM 10/16/2008


Modified by bprsk8r4272 at 7:33 PM 10/16/2008


Modified by bprsk8r4272 at 4:52 PM 10/19/2008

 

Get out your factory ETM and check your power and ground distribution. See what those circuits have in common. I bet someone forgot to connect a ground somewhere.

 

the car runs fine but i heard when it gets hot it wont start back up til it cools down
im going to un hack those wires when the p28 comes

are these the right ecu pinouts for the p28? cause these are what i have most match to the pinout i posted in this thread
A1 brown
A2 yellow
A3 red
A4 orange/white
A5 light blue
A6 orange/black
A7 green/yellow
A8 green/yellow
A9 green/white
A10 (empty)
A11 (empty)
A12 yellow/green
A13 green/orange
A14 (empty)
A15 black/red
A16 white/yellow
A17 light green
A18 (empty)
A19 yellow
A20 red
A21 red/green
A22 red/green
A23 black
A24 black
A25 yellow/black
A26 black/red
B1 yellow/black
B2 brown/black
B3 green/blue
B4 green/black
B5 blue/red
B6 (empty)
B7 green
B8 brown/red
B9 blue/white
B10 yellow/blue
B11 orange
B12 white
B13 orange/blue
B14 white/blue
B15 blue/green
B16 blue/yellow
D1 white/blue
D2 green/white
D3 (empty)
D4 brown
D5 (empty)
D6 orange/blue
D7 light blue
D8 (empty)
D9 pink
D10 green/red
D11 pink/black
D12 (empty)
D13 red/white
D14 white
D15 red/yellow
D16 (empty)
D17 pink/white
D18 white/red
D19 yellow/green
D20 yellow/white
D21 green/blue
D22 green/white

im asking cause the kid that did work on this car was a complete hack and i know how he does his work(cause i know him) im even tempted to take off the head to make sure he pulled out the oil jet or whatever its called

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bprsk8r4272 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the car runs fine but i heard when it gets hot it wont start back up til it cools down</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you tried another coil or checked yours for resistance?

 

no i didnt. could it also be something with those wires? and does anyone have a pic of where the wires would come out of the harness for vtec i think the engine wire harness was changed thats why im asking

 

the gauge cluster and clock now work with the p28 ecu in. weird? i hit the hazard button and think it just blew a fuse cause now the gauge cluster and clock are off. the check engine light was on so i have to check what that was after i wire the vtec. where is the obd1 plug suppose to be cause i cant find it anywhere anyone know what pins they are for it on the ecu?