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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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ok well i was reading a forum and i read about this place called larkin racing in cali that does benson sleeves i belive thats what its called correct me if im wrong.. well pretty much i wanna know are they good
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Benson sleeves are done by the owner of Benson. I could be wrong. I had Golden Eagle sleeves put in my block. Shipped it to GE directly. Excellent product.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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do u mean Laskey Racing? they do Benson Sleeving
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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yeah thats what i meant sorry i was on their web site and it cought my attention.. but whats better those golden eagle sleeves or the benson sleeves?????
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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i havent heard anything bad about both those companies or their sleeves..both those companies have pretty good rep for wut they make and do so i would say the question is whats ur budget as far as sleeves go
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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i had ge sleeves in my turbo h22 accord and i think i paid 1200 for them and i loved them great for boost but i think the bensons will hold more
or go with darton i heard alot of goods things jus gotta do ur research and find the right one for your project...
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98civdx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had ge sleeves in my turbo h22 accord and i think i paid 1200 for them and i loved them great for boost but i think the bensons will hold more
or go with darton i heard alot of goods things jus gotta do ur research and find the right one for your project...</TD></TR></TABLE>
dart/darton sleeves are the brand that the majority of the sleving companies use. The sleves are manufactured by dart/darton to the specifications of the company (i.e. to Dan Bensons specs, to GE's specs, etc.) Just because they are dart/darton sleeves doesn't mean the sleeve job is quality, the installation is an important aspect of the quality and longevity of the sleeves/sleeve job.
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 05:37 AM
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i see now maybe you can help me with this[B]
Benson sleeved block
Benson balanced and micropolished crank
CP pistons and rings
Pauter rods
ACL bearings
OEM (TypeR) oil pump
Lower gasket set
Blueprint and assembly
Boxing, return shipping and insurance (lower 48 only)
Total $3450

Eagle rods substituted for Pauters...$3050

Economy build (no sleeves, bored to 81.5mm) with CP's and Eagle rods...$235

What are the diffrences?? sorry im new to this thing
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Any One???
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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what block are you starting with? what will the motor be used for daily drver, hpde/autox, drag racing? what are your goals for this motor hp wise?
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -DC4- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what block are you starting with? what will the motor be used for daily drver, hpde/autox, drag racing? what are your goals for this motor hp wise?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its jdm b18cr not a D.D. i mostly plan on taking it to the track but i also wanna drive it on the streets maybe take it out 3 times a month.. and for hp 500-600whp
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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what track (drag i'm assuming based onyour horsepower goal). So you are going to be turboing this motor then?
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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that all depends if i dont like how the n/a is then ill boost it my question is tho how fast can a n/a type r be i really dont wanna get itbs either
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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a built b18c block will have anywhere from 180-220 and still be very reliable but there are many factors that come into play - what parts, was the build done properly, the tune, the dyno (does it read high), etc.

come up with a budget first then come up with some sort of a realistic goal that you want to achieve and go with it, but rememberm don't buy the parts on a whim, research them and make sure they will work well together.

Also if you are going to be doing any seriuos drag racing, look into the rules of what you will be racing in as there are probably certain things you can't do, or if you do them you will be moved up a class.

Take your time and research everything before you get out there and rip apart that b18c, after all, you only want to build it one and have it last, right? look in the all motor section, or the forced induction (if you do decide to go turbo), and look into the drag racing section too. and remember any questions you have, have more than likely already been asked by someone so try a quick search (this also includes searching google and other search engines) before you make a thread, and if you still come up empty it is time for you to make a thread.
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -DC4- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a built b18c block will have anywhere from 180-220 and still be very reliable but there are many factors that come into play - what parts, was the build done properly, the tune, the dyno (does it read high), etc.

come up with a budget first then come up with some sort of a realistic goal that you want to achieve and go with it, but rememberm don't buy the parts on a whim, research them and make sure they will work well together.

Also if you are going to be doing any seriuos drag racing, look into the rules of what you will be racing in as there are probably certain things you can't do, or if you do them you will be moved up a class.

amen

if you're looking for anywheres near 500hp you'll need to go boost on a B18C5.
Take your time and research everything before you get out there and rip apart that b18c, after all, you only want to build it one and have it last, right? look in the all motor section, or the forced induction (if you do decide to go turbo), and look into the drag racing section too. and remember any questions you have, have more than likely already been asked by someone so try a quick search (this also includes searching google and other search engines) before you make a thread, and if you still come up empty it is time for you to make a thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I AM WEASEL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
dart/darton sleeves are the brand that the majority of the sleving companies use. The sleves are manufactured by dart/darton to the specifications of the company (i.e. to Dan Bensons specs, to GE's specs, etc.) Just because they are dart/darton sleeves doesn't mean the sleeve job is quality, the installation is an important aspect of the quality and longevity of the sleeves/sleeve job.</TD></TR></TABLE> well dart and darton are 2 difrent compenys all togather dart makes blocks darton makes sleeves and sleeves blocks. darton does not make all the sleeves we make our sleeves in house darton does suply benson with sleeves but not us and yes installing the sleeves is one of the most inportent parts of a sleeve job


Modified by Golden Eagle at 2:58 PM 9/22/2008
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Darton used to supply Benson, not anymore. Ive have 2 blocks from Benson and the work is top notch. To be honest in the end its whos customer service you like better. All of the major companies will give you the same type of result (safety)
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