Hey people every time I fill up gas my car has trouble starting. It bogs and sometimes dies. Most of the time I have to crank it up 2 times and hold the gas a little for it to actually stop bogging and run normal. The car is tuned on crome with basic mods *intake,header,exhaust,testpipe,cam gears*

Could it be my fuel pump is going bad? The fuel pump has about 180,000 miles on It and I'm not sure If the previous owner ever changed out the fuel filter, but thats my next choice.

 

id do what you are thinking on.....only time this happened to me is when i pumped cheap gas in on of my sols....next time used a better gas station and no problem...

are you filling up at the same location? or same type of gas station?

if not try the fuel pump/filter

 

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I don't think they water down their gas purposely. Theres a natural condesation that occurs and water forms in the tank. I've heard you shouldn't pump gas while or just after a tanker fills up the tank. Hence he stirs up the water that sits in the bottom below the gas. Remember oil cannot be mixed with water, it floats above it.

 

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I don't think they water down their gas purposely. Theres a natural condesation that occurs and water forms in the tank. I've heard you shouldn't pump gas while or just after a tanker fills up the tank. Hence he stirs up the water that sits in the bottom below the gas. Remember oil cannot be mixed with water, it floats above it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've always heard the same thing. If they've just pumped or are pumping gas, go somewhere else.

 

Thats weird, I have the same problem. I drove my car all the way to E and filled up some gas at a Chevron station I have never gone to and my car would drive and then when ever I stopped, my RPM's would fall to where it almost dies then I would have to give it some gas and it would be fine.

I thought my IACV was acting up and was about to change it when I went back to my original gas station, 76, and it stopped completely. to crap gas!!

FYI: I am running on CROME as well...and only have 30k ish miles on my fuel filter

 

I pump at shell/76 with 91 octane only since thats all they have in Souther California. Both gas stations are always busy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dang EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats weird, I have the same problem. I drove my car all the way to E and filled up some gas at a Chevron station I have never gone to and my car would drive and then when ever I stopped, my RPM's would fall to where it almost dies then I would have to give it some gas and it would be fine.

I thought my IACV was acting up and was about to change it when I went back to my original gas station, 76, and it stopped completely. to crap gas!!

FYI: I am running on CROME as well...and only have 30k ish miles on my fuel filter</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats weird also because I thought it was my IACV. Also during idle it bogs down and I have to step on the gas a little for it to actually idle above 100 RPM.

 

honestly I bought my motor from a warehouse its a JDM ITR and sometimes I have a feeling that the bottom end of the motor has higher compression pistons because when I went to 2 different tuners they couldn't figure out why my car kept having detonation during uphill at low rpms. They literally retarded my timing to about 15 degrees. Anything above that It has detonation. So maybe the 91 octane I'm using isn't working out with the whole "imaginary built bottom end."


or maybe my local gas stations are only serving 87 octane at every pump. I should try 101 octane and see If it makes a difference.

 

I have toda spec b's wanting to go inside my car, but I'm so GRRR on why my car is being retarded!

 

oh damn nice...how much those ran you? lol...

 

Unplug your purge control vavle. On 98+ hondas, the output is inverted, so it opens when it should not and creates that bog.

 

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X2, i had to do the same thing after i got my hondata installed/tuned.

 

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thanks ill try that where is the purge control valve located exactly? on the charcoal canister?

 

What year is your car?

 

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2000 with a 1997 jdm b18c-R motor. Everything was converted to obd2a, but Its running off a obd1 ecu.

 

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2000 with a 1997 jdm b18c-R motor. Everything was converted to obd2a, but Its running off a obd1 ecu.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, 2000 had teh purge mounted on the firewall. It will have a Yellow/black and red wires.

 

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Well, 2000 had teh purge mounted on the firewall. It will have a Yellow/black and red wires. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok I'm going to take a look at it right now.. will report back.


edit: only wire I found similar was green/black/yellow located on the canister. I'm still looking though If anyone is aware of where the plug is located exactly on the firewall please let me know asap!

 

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Ok I'm going to take a look at it right now.. will report back.


edit: only wire I found similar was green/black/yellow located on the canister. I'm still looking though If anyone is aware of where the plug is located exactly on the firewall please let me know asap! </TD></TR></TABLE>

If I had a camera here, I would take a pic, but I do not.

 

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If I had a camera here, I would take a pic, but I do not. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's all good man you done all the help you possible could. Thanks!
Is there any access online for the haynes manual?

 

OK i went to my local mechanic and my car doesn't even have a purge control valve to begin with. But there was a hose connected from the charcoal canister to the throttle body and he simply pulled that off and capped it. So I went and filled up some gas and it started up like a champ with no bogging issues. Its actually starting to idle a little better then before. big thanks to Turbogixxer.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fat Chick Magnet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK i went to my local mechanic and my car doesn't even have a purge control valve to begin with. But there was a hose connected from the charcoal canister to the throttle body and he simply pulled that off and capped it. So I went and filled up some gas and it started up like a champ with no bogging issues. Its actually starting to idle a little better then before. big thanks to Turbogixxer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No problem, glad to see it was fixed

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fat Chick Magnet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK i went to my local mechanic and my car doesn't even have a purge control valve to begin with. But there was a hose connected from the charcoal canister to the throttle body and he simply pulled that off and capped it. So I went and filled up some gas and it started up like a champ with no bogging issues. Its actually starting to idle a little better then before. big thanks to Turbogixxer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

would you be able to post a picture of that? i unplugged the one on the firewall, but I would like to see exactly which one your talking about. thanks

 

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would you be able to post a picture of that? i unplugged the one on the firewall, but I would like to see exactly which one your talking about. thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>


Will do tomorrow morning.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fat Chick Magnet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honestly I bought my motor from a warehouse its a JDM ITR and sometimes I have a feeling that the bottom end of the motor has higher compression pistons because when I went to 2 different tuners they couldn't figure out why my car kept having detonation during uphill at low rpms. They literally retarded my timing to about 15 degrees. Anything above that It has detonation. So maybe the 91 octane I'm using isn't working out with the whole "imaginary built bottom end."


or maybe my local gas stations are only serving 87 octane at every pump. I should try 101 octane and see If it makes a difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>


it's more likely the USA's crap fuel than it is high compression bottom end.

 

http://www.toptiergas.com/

I'm not usually too picky about what I put in my daily driver that will run on anything and with prices the way they are I don't care as long as it runs. But I try to run better fuel in my R for obvious reasons.