Gettin pillows and pillows of white smoke out of the exhaust. I took the head off, sent it off to a machine shop, they pressure tested it, took it totally apart, resurfaced it, totally rebuilt the entire head so i know my problem is not in the head. When head was off we inspected the block, cylinder walls seemed fine, took a straight edge and found very minor warpage to the block, nothing a gasket couldnt soak up. Pistons were healthy, only issue we found was cylinder 3 was too clean compared to the others. We took off fuel rail, fuel reg, and injectors, put some used parts on and still the white smoke was evident, so i know those fuel parts are not bad. The head was put back on very cleanly, cleaned all surfaces and torqued all nuts/bolts down to spec. I know rings could possibly be bad but that would conclude burning oil, this is white smoke concluding coolant is getting by somewhere? I dont really know where to go from here, besides taking it to Acura for $95 an hour at this point. Anyone have any other thoughts or suggestions?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01_ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Gettin pillows and pillows of white smoke out of the exhaust. I took the head off, sent it off to a machine shop, they pressure tested it, took it totally apart, resurfaced it, totally rebuilt the entire head so i know my problem is not in the head. When head was off we inspected the block, cylinder walls seemed fine, took a straight edge and found very minor warpage to the block, nothing a gasket couldnt soak up. Pistons were healthy, only issue we found was cylinder 3 was too clean compared to the others. We took off fuel rail, fuel reg, and injectors, put some used parts on and still the white smoke was evident, so i know those fuel parts are not bad. The head was put back on very cleanly, cleaned all surfaces and torqued all nuts/bolts down to spec. I know rings could possibly be bad but that would conclude burning oil, this is white smoke concluding coolant is getting by somewhere? I dont really know where to go from here, besides taking it to Acura for $95 an hour at this point. Anyone have any other thoughts or suggestions? </TD></TR></TABLE> when i had white smoke it was bearings and bent valves from the old owners abuse .... lots of white smoke

 

Yeah im gettin ALOT of white smoke. enough to fill up the neigborhood. Possible bearings, but definitly cant be bent valves because those were all taken out and inspected when head was rebuilt. Thanks for your comment.

 

bearings arent gonna make smoke.

 

white smoke = bearings?

OP... what does the smoke smell like? sorta sweet?

 

it has its own smell. I cant really tell. I dont think its fuel, or oil.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01_ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it has its own smell. I cant really tell. I dont think its fuel, or oil. </TD></TR></TABLE>

My point exactly. Check your oil and see if it's greyish in color.

Sounds to me like a head gasket...

 

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My point exactly. Check your oil and see if it's greyish in color.

Sounds to me like a head gasket...</TD></TR></TABLE>

cant be...i replaced all gaskets with oem parts when we put head back together...

 

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cant be...i replaced all gaskets with oem parts when we put head back together...</TD></TR></TABLE>
The head could be warped?

 

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cant be...i replaced all gaskets with oem parts when we put head back together...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Easily can be if not done right, or upside down... and it's not hard if your not paying attention to put it upside down.

Black smoke ususally indicates rich/fuel conditions
Blue smoke usually indicates oil being burnt
White smoke usually indicates head gasket

Do you have access to a shop?

 

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The head could be warped? </TD></TR></TABLE>

^^^ head was sent out to machine shop, they went through the entire head. I dont think my problem lies within the head.

 

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^^^ head was sent out to machine shop, they went through the entire head. I dont think my problem lies within the head. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what do YOU think it is then?

I'm sticking with coolant...

 

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Easily can be if not done right, or upside down... and it's not hard if your not paying attention to put it upside down.

Black smoke ususally indicates rich/fuel conditions
Blue smoke usually indicates oil being burnt
White smoke usually indicates head gasket

Do you have access to a shop?</TD></TR></TABLE>

possible, not going to say your wrong but very unlikely. We were meticulous about putting the head back on the block.

 

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possible, not going to say your wrong but very unlikely. We were meticulous about putting the head back on the block. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I understand that. But trust me when I say, White Smoke = coolant. So be it in the HG or somewhere else (unlikely) your smoke is happening due to coolant somewhere being burnt.

 

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what do YOU think it is then?

I'm sticking with coolant...</TD></TR></TABLE>

We are really at a standstill right now. Everytime i take the head off there goes $160 just in gaskets...Before we took head off i drained the oil, was not a milkshake material indicating bad headgasket, oil was fine.

 

Yeah just whatever it is, its not throwing a CEL either, so its really hard to diag. this problem.

 

No, if you have the proper tools/shop you can do it. You need to block check it. That will tell you what's going on.

 

we inspected the block but very briefly, didnt rip apart the block...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01_ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we inspected the block but very briefly, didnt rip apart the block...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your not getting what I'm saying... I don't mean... check the block for visible issues... I mean block check and pressurize the block... see if there is leakage.

 

okay...anything else, that this problem could be related too besides the block?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01_ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay...anything else, that this problem could be related too besides the block? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Um... coolant.

 

white = water/coolant or maybe coal


have you been checking the coolant level each time after covering your area in fog?

 

I agree with Dave on this one. White smoke is almost a sure sign of coolant leaking into the combustion chamber due to either a bad gasket or warped head/block.

On that note, something fun for a beater car: use the washer squirter hoses and tap them into the intake manifold and fill the resevoir with coolant. Drive in front of your buddies, pull the washer squirter lever, and BAM James Bond smoke screen.*

*KetteringITR does not take responsibility for any possible damages incurred by this action. Its just hilarious when it works though.

 

Another point to note...

This didn't happen before you pulled the head off, correct?

Doesn't it seem awefully ironic that AFTER the head was pulled of, it now blows white smoke?

And Geoff... it's not Coal d00d... it's steam powered!

 

There can only be two things: carck cylinder head or leaking head gasket. If the head and block are original (not hybrid), check to make sure you have the right head gasket and that it doesn't seat up-side dowm.