More power for my B16a2. Help!
I've got an 00 Si. Its got a header and cold air intake. I would like more power and I think that an easy way to do it would be with new cams. What are your suggestions?
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i think im going to kill myself
i think im going to kill myself
ok so ask yourself this.... how much do you have to spnd and how much power do you want? what is "fast" to you? then we will help out more. cams are ALOT of money for what they give IMO
well you can start with the "Search" button - lol
catback would be your next best thing - you've increase the flow in but your restricting the flow out.
next thing i'd do is wash her and LEAVE HER ALONE!!!
the 2000 Si's are becoming harder to find stock - leave it alone - appreciate what honda gave you and be happy.
if you want real power - get a red valve cover - your car will look real fast..... another lol!!!
catback would be your next best thing - you've increase the flow in but your restricting the flow out.
next thing i'd do is wash her and LEAVE HER ALONE!!!
the 2000 Si's are becoming harder to find stock - leave it alone - appreciate what honda gave you and be happy.
if you want real power - get a red valve cover - your car will look real fast..... another lol!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DanteUrban »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've got an 00 Si. Its got a header and cold air intake. I would like more power and I think that an easy way to do it would be with new cams. What are your suggestions?</TD></TR></TABLE> You'd be better off putting your money into a motorcycle if you want to go fast, getting your 15 second car to be a 14 second car can get expensive.
Where are you from? Can you modify your car without the worries of Emissions? There alot of things you can do to get more power from your engine. Cams would be a good start. There are some things you will have to do before you put cams in your car. You are going to need a tunable ECU like Hondata. You will also need to replace your exhaust valve springs to dual valve springs. (i would suggest doing the intake to for hight lift cams) I would also suggest getting a better intake manifold like an ITR or Skunk2. So this is what I would recommend.
Hondata S100
Skunk2 Pro+1 cams
Skunk2 Pro Series Intake Manifold
Supertech Valve Springs and Retainers
Cat back Exhaust and Test pipe
If that doesn't seem like it will work for you you could run some CTR cams without an ECU or valve springs but you wont see that much of a gain in performance if you cant tune them and it would be a waste of $600.
Give some more info on what you can do with your car as far as modifying and tuning it.
Also lightening your car as much as you can will make it faster. Removing stuff like A/C, powersteering, rear seats, airbags....
Again the easiest and cheapest way to get a noticable power gain would be to turbo it. B16s love boost and it is relatively cheap to do nowdays. Do some research on boosting a B series engine and be willing to invest about $3000 for a turbokit.
Hondata S100
Skunk2 Pro+1 cams
Skunk2 Pro Series Intake Manifold
Supertech Valve Springs and Retainers
Cat back Exhaust and Test pipe
If that doesn't seem like it will work for you you could run some CTR cams without an ECU or valve springs but you wont see that much of a gain in performance if you cant tune them and it would be a waste of $600.
Give some more info on what you can do with your car as far as modifying and tuning it.
Also lightening your car as much as you can will make it faster. Removing stuff like A/C, powersteering, rear seats, airbags....
Again the easiest and cheapest way to get a noticable power gain would be to turbo it. B16s love boost and it is relatively cheap to do nowdays. Do some research on boosting a B series engine and be willing to invest about $3000 for a turbokit.
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Thanks JDM_teh_WIN!! You're the only one that actually gave out helpful info. The one guy says Spray. If you like a quick boost thats fine, not what I'm looking for. One guy said an exhaust. Duh. The other said to buy a bike (I've already got one.)
But anyways, I'm not looking to buy a turbo I just want something that gives it a little more power. Spending up to 1k is fine with me, but I'm not going to throw 3k on just a turbo kit. Also, I do live in Ohio, so no emission worries. And about the whole modifying it, there is a place around here that does Import work. http://www.slowmotionmotorsports.com/
And I don't plan on lightening it. I'm just going to keep the inside stock. Keep the body stock. I'm not looking to make an all out "high performance" machine. I just want more power out of it.
But anyways, I'm not looking to buy a turbo I just want something that gives it a little more power. Spending up to 1k is fine with me, but I'm not going to throw 3k on just a turbo kit. Also, I do live in Ohio, so no emission worries. And about the whole modifying it, there is a place around here that does Import work. http://www.slowmotionmotorsports.com/
And I don't plan on lightening it. I'm just going to keep the inside stock. Keep the body stock. I'm not looking to make an all out "high performance" machine. I just want more power out of it.
jdm_teh_win IMO is a moron the ITR head and IM is based on the b16
you want more power out of your b16 - revert to obd1 first - get a high flow cat or test pipe and put a less restrictive exhaust on.
get a better header - ITR replica or hytech replicas seem to put out nice gains over egay and dc etc.
from there you will need more than a grand to do **** right
port and polish - 3 angle valve job, upgraded springs and retainers.
swap the short block out from the b16 to say a GSR short block
get a tune dyno w/ wideband
oh yeah and if you want to swap cams on your stock valve train go to itr/ctr combo
ps google/search mother[freak]er learn 2 use it.
this has all been covered a hundred times
you want more power out of your b16 - revert to obd1 first - get a high flow cat or test pipe and put a less restrictive exhaust on.
get a better header - ITR replica or hytech replicas seem to put out nice gains over egay and dc etc.
from there you will need more than a grand to do **** right
port and polish - 3 angle valve job, upgraded springs and retainers.
swap the short block out from the b16 to say a GSR short block
get a tune dyno w/ wideband
oh yeah and if you want to swap cams on your stock valve train go to itr/ctr combo
ps google/search mother[freak]er learn 2 use it.
this has all been covered a hundred times
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this has all been covered a hundred times
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
In all honesty he shouldn't have put it that way but the search botton goes a far way. Figure out your budget and then figure out how much power you want to make. I put my turbo kit together with name brand parts for alot cheaper then 3k so I would highly consider this option if I were you.
We've all been there so good luck to you.
this has all been covered a hundred times
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
In all honesty he shouldn't have put it that way but the search botton goes a far way. Figure out your budget and then figure out how much power you want to make. I put my turbo kit together with name brand parts for alot cheaper then 3k so I would highly consider this option if I were you.
We've all been there so good luck to you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DTA-Zombie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jdm_teh_win IMO is a moron the ITR head and IM is based on the b16
you want more power out of your b16 - revert to obd1 first - get a high flow cat or test pipe and put a less restrictive exhaust on.
get a better header - ITR replica or hytech replicas seem to put out nice gains over egay and dc etc.
from there you will need more than a grand to do **** right
port and polish - 3 angle valve job, upgraded springs and retainers.
swap the short block out from the b16 to say a GSR short block
get a tune dyno w/ wideband
oh yeah and if you want to swap cams on your stock valve train go to itr/ctr combo
ps google/search mother[freak]er learn 2 use it.
this has all been covered a hundred times
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I'm a moron? WOW you must like repeating morons cause you basically told him everything I already did.
ITR head? I never mentioned getting an ITR head
And yes there is a difference between a OEM B16 Intake manifold and an ITR Intake manifold. It's bigger and flows better. Look at any dyno it makes a difference. Plus I run one on my own car. I know! Thanks for playing
And to the OP. Your welcome. If you want anymore advise just let me know.
What kind of header and intake do you have. Not that it really matters but some are better than others.
you want more power out of your b16 - revert to obd1 first - get a high flow cat or test pipe and put a less restrictive exhaust on.
get a better header - ITR replica or hytech replicas seem to put out nice gains over egay and dc etc.
from there you will need more than a grand to do **** right
port and polish - 3 angle valve job, upgraded springs and retainers.
swap the short block out from the b16 to say a GSR short block
get a tune dyno w/ wideband
oh yeah and if you want to swap cams on your stock valve train go to itr/ctr combo
ps google/search mother[freak]er learn 2 use it.
this has all been covered a hundred times
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I'm a moron? WOW you must like repeating morons cause you basically told him everything I already did.
ITR head? I never mentioned getting an ITR head
And yes there is a difference between a OEM B16 Intake manifold and an ITR Intake manifold. It's bigger and flows better. Look at any dyno it makes a difference. Plus I run one on my own car. I know! Thanks for playing
And to the OP. Your welcome. If you want anymore advise just let me know.
What kind of header and intake do you have. Not that it really matters but some are better than others.
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He doesnt want a turbo y0!
He doesnt want a turbo y0!
I'm not looking to do a lot of work y0! I'm not swapping blocks or heads. I'm not going to pull the engine to do a port and polish. And the Header is a Megan Racing (don't judge me, I didn't order it.) And the Intake is just some random non namebrand intake. And it came with a Megan muffler. I didn't mention it before because I think its about worthless.
And I don't have to worry about my budget. I could buy a turbo right now and be fine, but thats now what I want. I'm just wanting quick power for my daily driver. If I could just change out the cams, exhaust, intake manifold, etc. Thats fine. I just don't want to pull the engine. Its not worth it. I don't want a fully NA car built to the extreme. If I want an powerhouse I'll buy something with a V8.
**BTW, sorry if any of that sounded pissy, I'm not in the best of moods right now.
And I don't have to worry about my budget. I could buy a turbo right now and be fine, but thats now what I want. I'm just wanting quick power for my daily driver. If I could just change out the cams, exhaust, intake manifold, etc. Thats fine. I just don't want to pull the engine. Its not worth it. I don't want a fully NA car built to the extreme. If I want an powerhouse I'll buy something with a V8.
**BTW, sorry if any of that sounded pissy, I'm not in the best of moods right now.
if you dont want to do anything crazy but you still wanna keep your stock ecu, then just buy a Jackson Supercharger. It's legal and botls right on to your motor and you dont need to worry about pulling out your motor. And yea you do sound kind of pissy, we are just here trying to help you out.
A supercharger wouldnt be bad.
Looks like the tuner shop you posted should be a good place to get your car tuned, although it looks like they do more turbos than all motor cars.
So, as far as what you mentioned so far, I think if a supercharger isnt to your liking and you def dont wanna go turbo, cams and some more bolt-ons is what your loking at. I can recommend http://www.jhpusa.com for the cams and valvetrain, unless the tuner shop you mentions has that stuff.
Defintely look all the stuff I mentioned before. The only problem I see you having is the B16A2 is only at 10.2 for compression. Most high lift cams need about 11.1 comprerssion for optimal results. The most hp you will see with cams is close to 170-190 hp. I think that is pretty decent for daliy driving.
Looks like the tuner shop you posted should be a good place to get your car tuned, although it looks like they do more turbos than all motor cars.
So, as far as what you mentioned so far, I think if a supercharger isnt to your liking and you def dont wanna go turbo, cams and some more bolt-ons is what your loking at. I can recommend http://www.jhpusa.com for the cams and valvetrain, unless the tuner shop you mentions has that stuff.
Defintely look all the stuff I mentioned before. The only problem I see you having is the B16A2 is only at 10.2 for compression. Most high lift cams need about 11.1 comprerssion for optimal results. The most hp you will see with cams is close to 170-190 hp. I think that is pretty decent for daliy driving.
blah. heres my first si...6 psi and low on power at the time... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNerAvI1Bt4
And one last one,im the black one. 9 psi,shi*** FMU,and slicks i was spinning ( 20.8.14) best time was 13.49 coasting through the traps so i didnt have to hit 5th.Internally stock b16,DC crap header,AEM CAI,Powercore race cat, exhaust not connected,and a wack MSD ignition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXr-sxhwsqM




