6th gear from a CR?
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6th gear from a CR?
I'm comparing MY02 to an 08 CR and it has a taller 6th gear.
The 02 one is 0.811, while the AP2's is 0.76 (edited cuz I just checked an 05 AP2 as well)
Anyways, does anyone know if it's possible to get that 6th gear gearset and replace the one in my AP1?
The 02 one is 0.811, while the AP2's is 0.76 (edited cuz I just checked an 05 AP2 as well)
Anyways, does anyone know if it's possible to get that 6th gear gearset and replace the one in my AP1?
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (B serious)
better freeway cruising mileage is retarded?
Go look at an F22 accord's dyno and gearing. It's got less of everything and taller gears - gets hella better freeway mileage than a stock AP1.
The 6th gear from an AP2 trans will lower my freeway RPM, and our torque is flat from about 3200 till VTEC so it 'should' work just fine.
Go look at an F22 accord's dyno and gearing. It's got less of everything and taller gears - gets hella better freeway mileage than a stock AP1.
The 6th gear from an AP2 trans will lower my freeway RPM, and our torque is flat from about 3200 till VTEC so it 'should' work just fine.
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (kalm_traveler)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kalm_traveler »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">better freeway cruising mileage is retarded?
Go look at an F22 accord's dyno and gearing. It's got less of everything and taller gears - gets hella better freeway mileage than a stock AP1.
The 6th gear from an AP2 trans will lower my freeway RPM, and our torque is flat from about 3200 till VTEC so it 'should' work just fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're citing the TRANS as the reason why an F22 accord gets better gas mileage than the S2000?
What about tuning? Injector size? Compression ratio? Head flow? RWD drivetrain losses?
I'm sure the gearing factors in, but you're a bit off on your assumption.
The fact is that AP2s and AP1s get similar gas mileage. Sure, the F22 is a bigger engine, but the part throttle cruising fuel useage should be about the same regardless of gearing.
How bad is your highway mileage that you're considering this as an investment?
An AP2 trans will cost you around $1500-2000. Let's take the middle # and say $1750. This is just the trans itself. Not sure if you're doing the labor or what.
The trans swap is probably the easiest way to do this. Unless you're the one doing the labor, it's probably also the cheapest.
$1750 = around 437 gallons of fuel @$4/gal.
If you take the S2000's EPA estimates for the highway (26), that's 11,375 miles.
Lets say that you gain about 1mpg MAYBE 2mpg on the highway from your trans swap.
Now assume 26MPG and $4/gal.
So at first, to go 1 mile, it would have cost you $0.25
If you improve that figure by 2mpg, it costs you $0.14.
A savings of $0.11 per mile.
So you spent $1750 to save $0.11 per mile.
If you drive 12k miles a year at 26mpg, it would have cost $1846.
If you drive 12k miles a year at 28mpg, it will cost $1714
A savings of $132
So in 13.2 years or 159k, you'll make your $1750 back.
hmm.
Edit: I also get about 28-30mpg on the highway in my AP1. I drive between 70-75mph.
highway mileage depends a lot on how fast you're going and how much throttle you use. Obviously, if you're going fast in a car with low gearing, you're going to have a few issues.
The engine is revving fast. The throttle is open wide because it's trying to keep the car moving against aero drag and friction. The result is going to be horrible gas mileage.
You can drive a bit slower for free. 70-75mph isn't a crawl. It's regular *** freaking highway speeds.
I'm not sure how fast you drive on the highway, though.
Modified by B serious at 10:20 PM 9/13/2008
Go look at an F22 accord's dyno and gearing. It's got less of everything and taller gears - gets hella better freeway mileage than a stock AP1.
The 6th gear from an AP2 trans will lower my freeway RPM, and our torque is flat from about 3200 till VTEC so it 'should' work just fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're citing the TRANS as the reason why an F22 accord gets better gas mileage than the S2000?
What about tuning? Injector size? Compression ratio? Head flow? RWD drivetrain losses?
I'm sure the gearing factors in, but you're a bit off on your assumption.
The fact is that AP2s and AP1s get similar gas mileage. Sure, the F22 is a bigger engine, but the part throttle cruising fuel useage should be about the same regardless of gearing.
How bad is your highway mileage that you're considering this as an investment?
An AP2 trans will cost you around $1500-2000. Let's take the middle # and say $1750. This is just the trans itself. Not sure if you're doing the labor or what.
The trans swap is probably the easiest way to do this. Unless you're the one doing the labor, it's probably also the cheapest.
$1750 = around 437 gallons of fuel @$4/gal.
If you take the S2000's EPA estimates for the highway (26), that's 11,375 miles.
Lets say that you gain about 1mpg MAYBE 2mpg on the highway from your trans swap.
Now assume 26MPG and $4/gal.
So at first, to go 1 mile, it would have cost you $0.25
If you improve that figure by 2mpg, it costs you $0.14.
A savings of $0.11 per mile.
So you spent $1750 to save $0.11 per mile.
If you drive 12k miles a year at 26mpg, it would have cost $1846.
If you drive 12k miles a year at 28mpg, it will cost $1714
A savings of $132
So in 13.2 years or 159k, you'll make your $1750 back.
hmm.
Edit: I also get about 28-30mpg on the highway in my AP1. I drive between 70-75mph.
highway mileage depends a lot on how fast you're going and how much throttle you use. Obviously, if you're going fast in a car with low gearing, you're going to have a few issues.
The engine is revving fast. The throttle is open wide because it's trying to keep the car moving against aero drag and friction. The result is going to be horrible gas mileage.
You can drive a bit slower for free. 70-75mph isn't a crawl. It's regular *** freaking highway speeds.
I'm not sure how fast you drive on the highway, though.
Modified by B serious at 10:20 PM 9/13/2008
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (B serious)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B serious »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it may be cheaper to buy the whole AP2 trans somewhere. Better gearing all around.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Better gearing for the F20C engine. Alot more shifting with the F22 engine. Depends on how/where you're driving, though.
Better gearing for the F20C engine. Alot more shifting with the F22 engine. Depends on how/where you're driving, though.
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (B serious)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B serious »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You're citing the TRANS as the reason why an F22 accord gets better gas mileage than the S2000?
What about tuning? Injector size? Compression ratio? Head flow? RWD drivetrain losses?
I'm sure the gearing factors in, but you're a bit off on your assumption.
The fact is that AP2s and AP1s get similar gas mileage. Sure, the F22 is a bigger engine, but the part throttle cruising fuel useage should be about the same regardless of gearing.
How bad is your highway mileage that you're considering this as an investment?
An AP2 trans will cost you around $1500-2000. Let's take the middle # and say $1750. This is just the trans itself. Not sure if you're doing the labor or what.
The trans swap is probably the easiest way to do this. Unless you're the one doing the labor, it's probably also the cheapest.
$1750 = around 437 gallons of fuel @$4/gal.
If you take the S2000's EPA estimates for the highway (26), that's 11,375 miles.
Lets say that you gain about 1mpg MAYBE 2mpg on the highway from your trans swap.
Now assume 26MPG and $4/gal.
So at first, to go 1 mile, it would have cost you $0.25
If you improve that figure by 2mpg, it costs you $0.14.
A savings of $0.11 per mile.
So you spent $1750 to save $0.11 per mile.
If you drive 12k miles a year at 26mpg, it would have cost $1846.
If you drive 12k miles a year at 28mpg, it will cost $1714
A savings of $132
So in 13.2 years or 159k, you'll make your $1750 back.
hmm.
Edit: I also get about 28-30mpg on the highway in my AP1. I drive between 70-75mph.
highway mileage depends a lot on how fast you're going and how much throttle you use. Obviously, if you're going fast in a car with low gearing, you're going to have a few issues.
The engine is revving fast. The throttle is open wide because it's trying to keep the car moving against aero drag and friction. The result is going to be horrible gas mileage.
You can drive a bit slower for free. 70-75mph isn't a crawl. It's regular *** freaking highway speeds.
I'm not sure how fast you drive on the highway, though.
Modified by B serious at 10:20 PM 9/13/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
man who got your panties in a wad sheesh
Gearing makes a huge difference on gas mileage - and it's exactly what my question was about in the first place. Notice in your post how I said to look at an F22 Accords dyno chart and gearing. Those are the factors I am comparing with my AP1. A more efficient engine requires less fuel to make the same amount of torque and thus given the same gearing will net greater fuel economy. It's really not that complicated.
I'm not doing a trans swap. One pair of cogs inside the case is not the entire transmission assembly and yes I do all of my own work.
There are two goals here, increased highway fuel economy at any given speed and lower revs for decreased noise.
The flow of traffic here is 75-80mph. I'm barely resting my foot on the pedal to maintain that speed.
In any case, several people with Elements have been able to add in the 6th gear from an RSX-S trans and get huge increases in highway gas mileage.
If you don't have anything useful, insightful, or contstructive to add please keep the angry argumentative attitude to any of the other threads. I asked a very simple question plainly hoping that someone might have a better understanding of the scenario I've described than I do. Thus far, such people have not offered their input.
I know enough to ask an educated question, not enough to already know how much taller 6th gear could be before significantly more throttle would be required to maintain a given speed thus negating the benefits of a lower cruising RPM.
You're citing the TRANS as the reason why an F22 accord gets better gas mileage than the S2000?
What about tuning? Injector size? Compression ratio? Head flow? RWD drivetrain losses?
I'm sure the gearing factors in, but you're a bit off on your assumption.
The fact is that AP2s and AP1s get similar gas mileage. Sure, the F22 is a bigger engine, but the part throttle cruising fuel useage should be about the same regardless of gearing.
How bad is your highway mileage that you're considering this as an investment?
An AP2 trans will cost you around $1500-2000. Let's take the middle # and say $1750. This is just the trans itself. Not sure if you're doing the labor or what.
The trans swap is probably the easiest way to do this. Unless you're the one doing the labor, it's probably also the cheapest.
$1750 = around 437 gallons of fuel @$4/gal.
If you take the S2000's EPA estimates for the highway (26), that's 11,375 miles.
Lets say that you gain about 1mpg MAYBE 2mpg on the highway from your trans swap.
Now assume 26MPG and $4/gal.
So at first, to go 1 mile, it would have cost you $0.25
If you improve that figure by 2mpg, it costs you $0.14.
A savings of $0.11 per mile.
So you spent $1750 to save $0.11 per mile.
If you drive 12k miles a year at 26mpg, it would have cost $1846.
If you drive 12k miles a year at 28mpg, it will cost $1714
A savings of $132
So in 13.2 years or 159k, you'll make your $1750 back.
hmm.
Edit: I also get about 28-30mpg on the highway in my AP1. I drive between 70-75mph.
highway mileage depends a lot on how fast you're going and how much throttle you use. Obviously, if you're going fast in a car with low gearing, you're going to have a few issues.
The engine is revving fast. The throttle is open wide because it's trying to keep the car moving against aero drag and friction. The result is going to be horrible gas mileage.
You can drive a bit slower for free. 70-75mph isn't a crawl. It's regular *** freaking highway speeds.
I'm not sure how fast you drive on the highway, though.
Modified by B serious at 10:20 PM 9/13/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
man who got your panties in a wad sheesh
Gearing makes a huge difference on gas mileage - and it's exactly what my question was about in the first place. Notice in your post how I said to look at an F22 Accords dyno chart and gearing. Those are the factors I am comparing with my AP1. A more efficient engine requires less fuel to make the same amount of torque and thus given the same gearing will net greater fuel economy. It's really not that complicated.
I'm not doing a trans swap. One pair of cogs inside the case is not the entire transmission assembly and yes I do all of my own work.
There are two goals here, increased highway fuel economy at any given speed and lower revs for decreased noise.
The flow of traffic here is 75-80mph. I'm barely resting my foot on the pedal to maintain that speed.
In any case, several people with Elements have been able to add in the 6th gear from an RSX-S trans and get huge increases in highway gas mileage.
If you don't have anything useful, insightful, or contstructive to add please keep the angry argumentative attitude to any of the other threads. I asked a very simple question plainly hoping that someone might have a better understanding of the scenario I've described than I do. Thus far, such people have not offered their input.
I know enough to ask an educated question, not enough to already know how much taller 6th gear could be before significantly more throttle would be required to maintain a given speed thus negating the benefits of a lower cruising RPM.
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i think that this is a great idea. throttle % is going to make a the differance and i personaly do not like driveing 70mph with at 4k, its just stupid. I would like to know how this works for you. Besides no one races that high anyway, so it will only be beneficial to the mphs
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (kalm_traveler)
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man who got your panties in a wad sheesh
Gearing makes a huge difference on gas mileage - and it's exactly what my question was about in the first place. Notice in your post how I said to look at an F22 Accords dyno chart and gearing. Those are the factors I am comparing with my AP1. A more efficient engine requires less fuel to make the same amount of torque and thus given the same gearing will net greater fuel economy. It's really not that complicated.
I'm not doing a trans swap. One pair of cogs inside the case is not the entire transmission assembly and yes I do all of my own work.
There are two goals here, increased highway fuel economy at any given speed and lower revs for decreased noise.
The flow of traffic here is 75-80mph. I'm barely resting my foot on the pedal to maintain that speed.
In any case, several people with Elements have been able to add in the 6th gear from an RSX-S trans and get huge increases in highway gas mileage.
If you don't have anything useful, insightful, or contstructive to add please keep the angry argumentative attitude to any of the other threads. I asked a very simple question plainly hoping that someone might have a better understanding of the scenario I've described than I do. Thus far, such people have not offered their input.
I know enough to ask an educated question, not enough to already know how much taller 6th gear could be before significantly more throttle would be required to maintain a given speed thus negating the benefits of a lower cruising RPM.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Who got MY panties in a wad?
I explained my point logically and calmly. I even offered you a solution earlier on.
I'm not even going to share any other information that I have with you regarding AP1 and AP2 transmissions. Go find out the hard way.
man who got your panties in a wad sheesh
Gearing makes a huge difference on gas mileage - and it's exactly what my question was about in the first place. Notice in your post how I said to look at an F22 Accords dyno chart and gearing. Those are the factors I am comparing with my AP1. A more efficient engine requires less fuel to make the same amount of torque and thus given the same gearing will net greater fuel economy. It's really not that complicated.
I'm not doing a trans swap. One pair of cogs inside the case is not the entire transmission assembly and yes I do all of my own work.
There are two goals here, increased highway fuel economy at any given speed and lower revs for decreased noise.
The flow of traffic here is 75-80mph. I'm barely resting my foot on the pedal to maintain that speed.
In any case, several people with Elements have been able to add in the 6th gear from an RSX-S trans and get huge increases in highway gas mileage.
If you don't have anything useful, insightful, or contstructive to add please keep the angry argumentative attitude to any of the other threads. I asked a very simple question plainly hoping that someone might have a better understanding of the scenario I've described than I do. Thus far, such people have not offered their input.
I know enough to ask an educated question, not enough to already know how much taller 6th gear could be before significantly more throttle would be required to maintain a given speed thus negating the benefits of a lower cruising RPM.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Who got MY panties in a wad?
I explained my point logically and calmly. I even offered you a solution earlier on.
I'm not even going to share any other information that I have with you regarding AP1 and AP2 transmissions. Go find out the hard way.
Re: 6th gear from a CR? (B serious)
ive noticed OP, you make a lot of threads or posts based on other people's information. regurgitating **** you don't know for sure is exactly how misinformation begins. try using a the search function or bringing your own and ORIGINAL idea to the table for discussion. do you really think people put hundreds to thousands of dollars into gearsets just so you could defy all of them and say "LETS USE AN AP2 GEARSET IN MY AP1!" rofl.. and before you go around acting like you're mr.knowledgeable, please post all jobs done by you that brings something original to the table.
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (B serious)
To the OP: I respect that you are trying to be efficient, insightful and innovative here. However, no one buys and S2000 to a.) fuel economy or b.) low road noise.
That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (SuzukaBlueAP2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To the OP: I respect that you are trying to be efficient, insightful and innovative here. However, no one buys and S2000 to a.) fuel economy or b.) low road noise.
That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To the OP: I respect that you are trying to be efficient, insightful and innovative here. However, no one buys and S2000 to a.) fuel economy or b.) low road noise.
That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To the OP: I respect that you are trying to be efficient, insightful and innovative here. However, no one buys and S2000 to a.) fuel economy or b.) low road noise.
That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
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That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To the OP: I respect that you are trying to be efficient, insightful and innovative here. However, no one buys and S2000 to a.) fuel economy or b.) low road noise. That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To the OP: I respect that you are trying to be efficient, insightful and innovative here. However, no one buys and S2000 to a.) fuel economy or b.) low road noise. That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (SuzukaBlueAP2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no one buys and S2000 to a.) fuel economy or b.) low road noise.
That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
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That deserves a
That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (SuzukaBlueAP2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
anyways, how much of a difference in the rpm rage do you actually think you will get by running an ap1 6th gear as opposed to running a ap2? i mean currently youre at 4000rpms @ 75mph and then 4250 @ 80mph (it increases 250rpms for every 5mph)
anyways, how much of a difference in the rpm rage do you actually think you will get by running an ap1 6th gear as opposed to running a ap2? i mean currently youre at 4000rpms @ 75mph and then 4250 @ 80mph (it increases 250rpms for every 5mph)
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (Chris.)
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anyways, how much of a difference in the rpm rage do you actually think you will get by running an ap1 6th gear as opposed to running a ap2? i mean currently youre at 4000rpms @ 75mph and then 4250 @ 80mph (it increases 250rpms for every 5mph)</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll find the gear calculator and figure it out tonight. If it's not good enough there's always having a shop cut two custom cogs (should be relatively inexpensive compared to an entire transmission)
anyways, how much of a difference in the rpm rage do you actually think you will get by running an ap1 6th gear as opposed to running a ap2? i mean currently youre at 4000rpms @ 75mph and then 4250 @ 80mph (it increases 250rpms for every 5mph)</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll find the gear calculator and figure it out tonight. If it's not good enough there's always having a shop cut two custom cogs (should be relatively inexpensive compared to an entire transmission)
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (Chris.)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">either that or get a custom trans made with a 7th gear...</TD></TR></TABLE>I like your thinking now Chris!
I'm missing some piece of info,
every gear calculator I've tried using is giving bogus speeds, 4.1 FD + 0.811 gear and they're saying that 4500rpm is 100mph which is obviously way too high.
Do we have some kind of primary reduction going on?
*EDIT again*
nvm primary reduction is 1.160. Ok so stock AP1 trans 4200rpm in 6th is 80.6mph
swapping to an AP2 6th gear 80.6mph is 3940rpm.
If I could get the gearset cheap enough that would be worth my weekend's time to swap out but we'll see. To drop "80.6"mph down to 3500 will require a 0.675 gear.
*edit 3*
Looks like most of the Civics had a .702 5th gear which would make 80.6mph 3640rpm if that ratio was our 6th gear.
Modified by kalm_traveler at 10:47 PM 9/14/2008
I'm missing some piece of info,
every gear calculator I've tried using is giving bogus speeds, 4.1 FD + 0.811 gear and they're saying that 4500rpm is 100mph which is obviously way too high.
Do we have some kind of primary reduction going on?
*EDIT again*
nvm primary reduction is 1.160. Ok so stock AP1 trans 4200rpm in 6th is 80.6mph
swapping to an AP2 6th gear 80.6mph is 3940rpm.
If I could get the gearset cheap enough that would be worth my weekend's time to swap out but we'll see. To drop "80.6"mph down to 3500 will require a 0.675 gear.
*edit 3*
Looks like most of the Civics had a .702 5th gear which would make 80.6mph 3640rpm if that ratio was our 6th gear.
Modified by kalm_traveler at 10:47 PM 9/14/2008
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higher FD = higher RPM in all gears which is very much the opposite of what I'm going for
higher FD = higher RPM in all gears which is very much the opposite of what I'm going for
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (SuzukaBlueAP2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To the OP: I respect that you are trying to be efficient, insightful and innovative here. However, no one buys and S2000 to a.) fuel economy or b.) low road noise.
That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
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I've always thought this was the silent consensus from s2k owners but another thread about a s2k's gas mileage made me think twice.
That just doesn't make any sense to me. I bought my S2000 to rev the **** out of it and burn fuel.
</TD></TR></TABLE> I've always thought this was the silent consensus from s2k owners but another thread about a s2k's gas mileage made me think twice.
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Re: 6th gear from a CR? (ITRbroham)
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I've always thought this was the silent consensus from s2k owners but another thread about a s2k's gas mileage made me think twice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't get me wrong I love driving it like the sports car it is - but it's also my DD and halfway-decent-for-a-4-cylinder freeway mileage would negate the need to buy, register, and insure a 2nd vehicle simply for better fuel economy for that one day or so per month where I drive 50 miles to get to my dad's house.
I've always thought this was the silent consensus from s2k owners but another thread about a s2k's gas mileage made me think twice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't get me wrong I love driving it like the sports car it is - but it's also my DD and halfway-decent-for-a-4-cylinder freeway mileage would negate the need to buy, register, and insure a 2nd vehicle simply for better fuel economy for that one day or so per month where I drive 50 miles to get to my dad's house.