I'm gonna start off by saying that we started putting her new suspension on and had to stop half way through. So the front is lowered and the rear isn't. I know that will throw the rear tow off but I didn't think it will hurt the front. Now to the problem.

Her car has seperated the sidewall from the tread on 4 tires now. 2 Neo Gen's and 2 Parada's. There all 17's in the same size. She doesn't have a camber kit yet. But I know alot of cars with camber thats off and they don't do this. It's always pn the front. There pretty new tires in good shape, atleast 85% tread left. She's religious about checking her tire pressure. Checks it every couple days, if it's a leaky tire (cause as they have been blowing she has been putting her old wheels and tires on that have been sitting for a while) she checks it atleast once a day.

Were putting the new rear suspension on this week when her camber kit and new brakes are here. She has brand new tires for it but doesn't want to put them on till we know whats causing this.

I can get pics of all the fubar tires if it will help firgure this out. There not rubbing anywhere. Anyone had this issue or know what it is?

 

1) Alignment
2) Look for hitting the upper control arms
3) Look at the treadwear rating on tires
4) Look for hitting the front/rear/sides of the fender well

 

It's not hitting or rubbing anywhere that I can find. I put some axle grease on the upper arm and it was there and hadnt been touched a week later after a tire went out. Her alignment feels great. There's no vibration and the car doesnt pull to one side or the other.

 

how wide are these bad boys?

 

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You should try to get some pics of the tires damage. By shredding do you mean feathering? Feathered means you can run your hand across the tread smoothly in one direction and going the other way your hand will get snagged on the tread. I would have it checked by a reputable alignment shop. If you're in the new york area I could take a look at it for you.

-Sal

 

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Come on man. Are you serious? Go get it aligned.

 

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Come on man. Are you serious? Go get it aligned.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah it could drive straight and not pull but the toe could be out quite a bit. OP How much did you lower it?

 

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How will lowering the front affect rear toe but not the front?

 

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How will lowering the front affect rear toe but not the front? </TD></TR></TABLE>

rear suspension angle changes

 

So does the front. The rear toe change should be negligible.

 

When you're driving a car like it's on hydraulics I wouldn't put it past the alignment being f'd.

Rear at stock height and front lowered? That's almost asking for a horrible alignment.

It's either a bad alignment or the fronts are hitting the fender/arms

 

The rear isnt stock height. She had shitty springs on so the back are just a the old lowering springs.

 

First post stated

"front is lowered and the rear isn't"

So I took it as being stock.

 

My car is only lowered in the front as well. I have about a 2-3 finger gap in the rear and a lil less than a 2 finger gap in the front. I need the rear to be higher to be able to carry my occasional load.
You DEFINITELY need an alignment. I have lifetime alignment from Firestone, but I took it to about 6 Firestones trying to get them to do it correctly, I finally got it correct when I got a recommendation from a mechanic friend of mine. Firestone is good for the occasional alignment, but they cant do it good if you have just lowered your car. Always ask for a before and after print out as well, and make sure they do a 4 wheel alignment. The last time I got one at Firestone, they used the specifications from a Dodge Dakota pickup truck, trying to rob me by just doing a 2 wheel alignment. I took it to a different Firestone shop and they got the specifications correct.

This will entirely be blamed on your alignment obviously.

 

Alignment... Camber needs adjusted. If it's too low, most shops wont be able to get it in spec.

 

Oh yea. That is true. Mine is lowered 1.7" on Eibach Sportlines. I also have a camber kit. My tires seem to be wearing pretty evenly as far as I can see. I have had this setup since Jan 08. When you get a Camber kit, you will need to take it to a decent alignment shop to get it adjusted properly.

Get the toe as close to zero as possible, and that will get you the best results. You NEED an alignment.

 

Alignment. Go get one.

It's part of lowering a car, deal with it.

 

Camber is not a large worry as much as toe is.


OP: Get an alignment, as nearly everyone has recommended.

 

^^ While I am a firm believer in this (camber not as big of a factor) I can tell you that it does play a roll

I take my car to get the toe zero'd out every so often and the tires do still wear down noticeably more in the center due to camber.

 

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I take my car to get the toe zero'd out every so often and the tires do still wear down noticeably more in the center due to camber.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where do you take your car to get the toe zeroed out? I got an alignment at a Firestone 1414 N Parham Rd, Richmond did a pretty good job, but everywhere else are too lazy to zero out my toe.

 

It's a frame and body shop in Midlothian, Ron Ellis I think? It's near the car dealership stretch (behind the Carmax)

I had Ron Ellis himself do the alignment haha

 

I got all the suspension and got the front aligned. They couldn't align the rear because the bolts are rusted in. I hate Honda rear suspension bolts. Oh ya I got a camber kit on the front that I had laying around. She ordered the rear lastnight. I'll get that on when it comes. So now I need to get all of the toe bolts moving.

 

PB Blaster super hardcore

 

Go to a Firestone or Expert Tire and purchase a Lifetime Alignment. You can use it as many times as you want for the life of the vehicle and it's good at ANY Firestone or Expert Tire.

Also, when and if they give you some kind of BS about rear camber etc is not adjustable but you have an ajustable rear upper control arm, tell them to fix it. The point I am trying to make here is, by and far most technicians working ofr firestone in my district are good but there are the occassional idiots out there. Tell them you wanna see the printout and they will let you see it. I know all of this stuff because I just left Firestone.

Get a Lifetime Alignment, they are worth it. I have them check mine every oil change.

 

Umm, camber is not adjustable in a CD Chassis accord.

It's why they make camber kits.

TOE is adjustable.