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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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i need help with suspension don't know much about this car when it comes to that i run dsp now with my 04 gli and next year want to run my prelude what works and what doesn't looking to spend no more than like 2 grand on suspension what do you guys think
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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i would think sway bars are the most important
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Casco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i need help with suspension don't know much about this car when it comes to that i run dsp now with my 04 gli and next year want to run my prelude what works and what doesn't looking to spend no more than like 2 grand on suspension what do you guys think</TD></TR></TABLE>

What class do you want to run the 'lude in?
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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nothing works. the prelude SUCKS as a compettitive autocross car. save yourself time, money and headache and pick a class, then use whatever car is hot.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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not sure what class would work for it. it will have a na motor with internals so i was thinking a prepared class. im not think of going nationals or anything just would like to have a car that will do autocross and maybe some road courses.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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i run dsp in the jetta and in my area im on top of the class but not to much competition so what i want is a class that would be competitive
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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A good starting point that is not too much $$ would be Ground Control adjustable ride height set up, with Koni "Yellow" shocks. Get custom spring rates of 400F, and 500R. Keep the stock front sway bar, and get the biggest, fattest, and stiffest rear sway bar you can find. Also the K-mac upper ball-joints works well for adding more negative camber to the front of the car.

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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 577HondaPrelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A good starting point that is not too much $$ would be Ground Control adjustable ride height set up, with Koni "Yellow" shocks. Get custom spring rates of 400F, and 500R. Keep the stock front sway bar, and get the biggest, fattest, and stiffest rear sway bar you can find. Also the K-mac upper ball-joints works well for adding more negative camber to the front of the car.

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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lo-Buck EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nothing works. the prelude SUCKS as a compettitive autocross car. save yourself time, money and headache and pick a class, then use whatever car is hot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

+1

Preludes suck.

But really, not a great Auto-X car.

-Chris

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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 06:59 AM
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when runing attts u diffetly want stiffer front that a base lude I have h and r springs and tokio blu struts. the springs are grate but I recommended getting adjust sturts. drop the car 1-2 inch don't drop it any lower or youll throw atts lights all day long. I sont have and strut bars but that's the next thing im doing. and a nice set of tires wouldn't hurt(i got kdw's!). I would also take off the bud flaps cuz once u lower they will scrape witch is an awful sound hahah. and u should diffently get a intake an buy the biggest k&n u can fit. it will give u a little better pulling power around those sweepers.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lo-Buck EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nothing works. the prelude SUCKS as a compettitive autocross car. save yourself time, money and headache and pick a class, then use whatever car is hot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 577HondaPrelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A good starting point that is not too much $$ would be Ground Control adjustable ride height set up, with Koni "Yellow" shocks. Get custom spring rates of 400F, and 500R. Keep the stock front sway bar, and get the biggest, fattest, and stiffest rear sway bar you can find. Also the K-mac upper ball-joints works well for adding more negative camber to the front of the car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

These are both great bits of advice, however, the first one is the most important one. I've been down this road. You may not be running Nationals at this point, but if you continue racing at some point you are going to want to know if it is you or the car that is holding you back, or where you might finish if you were in a competitive car.

Once that happens you start looking to build a car that is competitive, and then you sell parts off the Prelude at a lose. So just skip the first step and look at building something competitive, or start asking around for co-drives in a car that is competitive.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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I run in the STS L class, but if you have engine internals, then it would fall in DSP class. The rear sway bar helped tons, I have a Progress 27mm, and the car finally rotates better. Camber kit also helps a lot, but one problem I've found with the ATTS is that it tends to make the steering wheel very stiff through tight slaloms. It's almost like the steering wheel tugs you in the other direction when you're trying to make fast left-right transitions. Good tires (I run Toyo R1R) and much lighter wheels help a lot too. Get rid of as much weight as possible too!

I've gotten to the point where I know what's slowing me down is the car. I get in other people's Evos, Integs, S2k, EF, etc. and I'm making way faster times my first lap out with their car (at least 1 -2 seconds faster).

As other people have suggested, the bigger question is, are you sure you don't want to run Nationals? Because if that would be a possibility, our cars are definitely not competitive enough. Save your money on parts and build a car that would be competitive. I'm already eyeing my next autox car because I've been doing this for a couple of years now and I've decided I do want to run Nationals in the near future.

Don't get me wrong, i still love my car. :D
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