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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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Hey guys, ideal here again, so far for my modding, i installed a aem cai w/ bypass valve, and thats it so far, just moving one step at a time. But anways, i know this might seem like a weird question, but does anyone have a major list of what performance upgrades i could do to a 4th gen accord, i dont mean just like small, bypass here, exhaust here, but i mean just stuff, although i would apreciate that stuff in any list...heh... anyways, i know this might be long, just kinda wondering.

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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 10:55 PM
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Suspension:
H&R Springs
Koni Adjustable Shocks
Suspension Techniques Rear Sway Bar
Various strut tower bars
Performance
Exhaust
Header
Intake
Clutch
Nitrous (Zex, and only Zex)
Engine Mounts
Plugs
Wires
Basic Maintenance
Timing Belt
Water Pump
Valves Adjusted
Fuel Filter
Good Oil and Filter
CV Joints/Axles

Wheels and Tires
Lightweight (Kosei K-1s)
Good tire compound (Azenis)


I dunno...ask more questions.
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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i keep hearing about fuel cells or something, and what other swaps can i do that are more powerfull than a h22a or h23a turbo
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 11:01 PM
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i keep hearing about fuel cells or something, and what other swaps can i do that are more powerfull than a h22a or h23a turbo
Dont worry about fuel cells. Thats for the hardcore folks.

If an H23a1 Turbo doesnt give you enough headaches, try designing a flying accord. One step at a time maing.
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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i keep hearing about fuel cells or something, and what other swaps can i do that are more powerfull than a h22a or h23a turbo
I would stick with the H22A1 or just do F22B1 w/turbo.
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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Dont worry about fuel cells. Thats for the hardcore folks.

If an H23a1 Turbo doesnt give you enough headaches, try designing a flying accord. One step at a time maing.
What do fuel cells do exactly, also could you elaborate more on the "designing a flying accord"

Yeah, im taking very very very slowly, one 1/4 baby step at a time, i just kinda want to learn about what kinds of upgrades are possible, thanks man.
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 11:15 PM
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Fuel cells keep fuel from moving around, and it also provides saftey in the event of a wreck. They are not necessary for street applications.
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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Performance
Exhaust
Header
Intake
Clutch
Nitrous (Zex, and only Zex)
Engine Mounts
Plugs
Wires
What kind of header do you recommend? as for plugs and wires, what kind would be the best, and for exhaust, im lookin at something that isnt all the loud, but gives me the most power, thanks alot guys, i really really do aprreciate all this.
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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DC 4-2-1 would be the best. I think. Stock NGK Wires will work with ZEX plugs, just as long as both are new.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:03 AM
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Sorry, i am seriusly i complete newbie
DC 4-2-1 would be the best. I think. Stock NGK Wires will work with ZEX plugs, just as long as both are new.
What does DC 4-2-1 do, im guessing header, Do all accords come with NGK Wires, that really sounds familiar, its kinda late night over here, spark plugs right? and what are ZEX plugs, what do those do?
Sorry again, just learnin everythin possible on upgrades, do apprectiate this i do.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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Sorry, i am seriusly i complete newbie
DC 4-2-1 would be the best. I think. Stock NGK Wires will work with ZEX plugs, just as long as both are new.
What does DC 4-2-1 do, im guessing header, Do all accords come with NGK Wires, that really sounds familiar, its kinda late night over here, spark plugs right? and what are ZEX plugs, what do those do?
Sorry again, just learnin everythin possible on upgrades, do apprectiate this i do.
No worries.

DC 4-2-1 Refers to a DC Sports 4 into 2 into 1. That implies that the pipes bend/merge from 4 (one from each cylinder) to 2 (1st set of collectors) to 1 (main collector, the one that would bolt to your catalytic converter.

Yes. Honda uses NGK wires from the factory. My recommendation is that your replace the ones that came on your car from the factory with fresh ones. That is all.

Zex Plugs refers to Zex Spark Plugs. They are a cold enough range to justify running a 55 shot without needing to retard the ignition timing any. They run ~$25 for a set of 4.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:12 AM
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Thanks alot for the info sorry about all the questions, here are another few more...
is it hard to install DC 4-2-1? Will i notice any difference immediatly? And how much does it run to get it, and is it hard to install?
Zex Plugs refers to Zex Spark Plugs. They are a cold enough range to justify running a 55 shot without needing to retard the ignition timing any. They run ~$25 for a set of 4.
What does it mean when they are cold, and what does 55 shotmean, and what does retarding the engine mean(sounds bad, probably isnt, heh)? sorry about so many questions. I really apreciate the help alot
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:18 AM
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The header is an easy install. If you live in an area where they use salt on the roads during the winter it makes things a little more difficult as you will have to deal with corroded bolts. You will notice a little bottom end gone but made up in the higher revs. They run ~$310.

"Cold Plugs" Refer to the spark plugs reactions to cylinder head temp. On nitrous, the cylinder head temps rises significantly and if using stock plugs, this can cause pre-ignition aka detonation, where the tip of the spark plug becomes so hot that it ignites the air/fuel mixture without the need of actual spark. This is what destroys engines.

55 Shot refers to a 55 horsepower jet of nitrous.

Retarding the ignition timing refers to dialing the distributor to spark later in the combustion cycle, as to prevent the aforementioned detonation problems.


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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:23 AM
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but i take it that i dont need nitrous to use those plugs right? What exactly happens when you lose bottom end, like what exactly do you feel, or i guess mean, and if i get higher revs, how does that help, i think this my last set of questions ,thanks alot dude, really really apreciate it. My car is automatic if that matters.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:27 AM
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No nitrous, no need for upgraded plugs.

You know that instant push you get when you hit the accelerator. Like ~2000 rpm? You will lose a little of that but gain some as you climb in the revs. Your car is an automatic so the transmission probably absorbs all that bottom end already.


Ever consider an engine swap? Or another car?

edit: im going to bed. Take care.


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