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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 02:01 PM
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Default Got good news for those misshift days and bending valves and Waranty

Well finishing up project I went into acura today and was talking to the guys behind the counter (they know me by first name becasuse I go in there so much) any way there was a tech in there ordering a new RSX head becasue some guy bent like 80% of the valves and bent the guides. Any way I asked him what the waranty on that is I mean do you the driver have to pay for that or are you covered the manager told me you get one free be and I said what. He explaind that the new RSX trannys 2nd gear has 3 syncros as oposed to the B series motors that have ony 2 witch make is easier to put it in to 2nd and causing a misshift so I guess if you blow her up than you get one break just thaught you all wouls like to know

this was at Acura of Riverside CA


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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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Whether or not you get a "break" is TOTALLY up to the dealership. If they even slightly think you raced it, your outta luck.
They read the memory on the ECU and see what the fatal RPM was, and then determine from that info if it was being driven "HARD" or not.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 02:04 AM
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Kind of curious... How do you know you have bent valves... does the car totally not work? What are the symptoms?
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 04:07 AM
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The Punk is correct.. if u get a break it's up to the dealership.. so hopefully there not a bunch of Awholes
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 04:43 AM
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that kinda mechanical failure should always be covered, but they'll give you hell for it i'm sure
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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cool, Riverside isnt far from me... I can always get an RSX to blow up there and get it covered.
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Got good news for those misshift days and bending valves and Waranty (mooboygsr)

Kind of curious... How do you know you have bent valves... does the car totally not work? What are the symptoms?
If your car does not completely shut off, it will sound like a stampede of miniature horses is galloping under your hood. If they are bent badly enough or all bent, you will not be able to hold compression and the car just won't run or start.


Now, about this issue of the dealerships not covering it if you were 'driving hard' by way of monitoring the ECU... if they don't like you driving hard, then why is the redline for folking high !!?? The car was meant to be driven.... hard or soft and if it can't last... then they should fix it free of charge ! Damn money hungry corps !
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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My thoughts exactly. And in the commercail for the RSX type S it says " introducing the all new high revving RSX type S " .So after this commercail they expect people to " NOT" drive thier cars hard? Idiots I guess.
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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stupid damn dealerships....try to save bucks..they should be shot
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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Anything to make a buck I guess.
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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i say if you spent 25,000 dollars on a car and its warrantied acura should cover it, but if the problem persists, like it happening more than once or twice than that is your fault.

ej. who shifted from 3rd to 2nd at redline and later found out he bent 12 valves and blew the tranny. acura covered it but they said that was a one time thing
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 02:19 AM
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Actually if the same problem keeps occuring and you keep taking it back to acura and it happens more then 3 times you can enforce the lemon law and the dealership has to give you a new car.
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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 07:46 PM
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Is that a state or federal law? Does it really ever get enforced? I bet there are a shitload of legal loopholes for dealers to get out of just about anything... going to a dealership is like getting donkey punched
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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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Actually if the same problem keeps occuring and you keep taking it back to acura and it happens more then 3 times you can enforce the lemon law and the dealership has to give you a new car.
The lemon law your talking about only refers to manufacturing flaws/problems...NOT overrevving your car and breaking stuff.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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I've never understood why any of the Honda/Acura dealerships decide not to warranty mis-shifts and other stupid things car owners do. If the service tech or manager writes up the service order as a warranty repair then Honda of America reimburses them the cost of the labor and parts anyway. It's not like the cost to fix the problem comes out the dealerships pockets. All they have to do is make sure that they can explain that the problem was due to mechanical failure and not driver error. I saw that happen a few times at the dealership I used to work at.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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man i just got my type s and you guys are scaring me **** i hope i never shift into second from third, i'm a newbie at stick so won't be driving it hard for a while but now i'm scared to!
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 10:39 AM
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Acura of Riverside? geez i thot they were jerks~ they said my warranty cant cover for the hole in my radiator.... but they can cover for people's mistakes... how pathetic...
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 11:31 AM
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I just blew my motor up at the drag strip today...misshifted from 3rd to 2nd at about 8k rpm...we pushed it out the strip and about a mile down the road...so were just gonna say it was a normal misshift, hopefully I dont get fucked in the rear end (which I probably will anyway)
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Got good news for those misshift days and bending valves and Waranty (gsrapper)

man i just got my type s and you guys are scaring me **** i hope i never shift into second from third, i'm a newbie at stick so won't be driving it hard for a while but now i'm scared to!
Yea, same here. I just bought it and I'm new at stick too and I've noticed that all the gears are so damn close to each other, I'm bound to mishift real soon.. and I had a quick question. What's the deal with the warranty if you have a body kit on your car.. if you have, say an engine prob, will the warranty be void if you put on a lip/body kit?
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 05:27 AM
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guys, some ppl don't get internet sarcasm. Be easy on the noobs.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 06:52 AM
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guys, some ppl don't get internet sarcasm. Be easy on the noobs.
I was for real...we got it on tape. Im still waiting for my dealer to call me when the car arrives at the dealership. If they dont cover it under warrenty Im prob gonna have to get rid of it because theres no way Im going to be able to afford a new motor for it.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 07:19 AM
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You serious? That sucks, how are you going to plead? The ECU is just going to show driver error.

Good luck with your car.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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me and my friends pushed my car out of the strip and about a mile down the road...were just gonna say we were all comin from a friends driving normally(the redline on the S is 7900 after all) and I shifted into 4th next thing I know is the motor died. To tell you the truth I really cant remember misshifting into 2nd, I just remember pushing in on the clutch pulling back to 4th and the next thing I know the tach spins past 9k and the motor just dies.

Supposedly the S2k has the same problem, and a guy misshifted his and it was fixed under warrenty, so hopefully my Acura dealer does the same. If not im gonna have to get rid of car, because theres no way im going to be able to afford a new motor.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 07:34 AM
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Talked to the dealer today... my ECU's fatal last note was at 9191rpm@69mph... they are working on it now and at least 2 pistons are blown. However he said they will be covering it, but it will be a one-time thing (just like I read on here and CRSX)...he said at the least I will be getting a brand new motor.
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 06:02 AM
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My thoughts exactly. And in the commercail for the RSX type S it says " introducing the all new high revving RSX type S " .So after this commercail they expect people to " NOT" drive thier cars hard? Idiots I guess.
Just because its a fast car doesn't mean they have to be responsible for the driver screwing up. Take a walk over to I-club, you'll find a handful of people whining about filing lawsuits because Subaru sells the car as a performance car, but won't warranty it when raced.

It's your choice to drive your car aggressively, and your responsibility for the consequences. I should know, I just paid almost $300 for a master cylinder
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