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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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okay so what i did was swap a different y7 head on my y7 block because the other one had a bad lifter. well i try to start the car and it idles at like 200 and when you floor it, after 10 sec or so it revs up but i noticed alot of smoke comes out [grey colored] maybe because it was flooding?

could it be my timing is off?

also, when it rev's it doesnt sound like it should
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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can anyone help me please ive searched and searched
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Check you firing order.. may have a plug wire wrong on the distributer cap
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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i never took them off the dizzy and they are different lengths [dummy proof]


Modified by thebleek at 11:20 PM 9/1/2008
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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I would start with checking all the timing marks and then with a timing light!
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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ill pull my belt off and redo my timing but i never knew how to use a timing light.

the marks never made sense to me
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Perhaps this might help you a tad with the timing?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=649277
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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ill try and redo the timing tomorrow

anymore ideas anyone?
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 05:48 AM
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dizzy could be 180 out?
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 06:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by austinkli &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dizzy could be 180 out?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's virtually impossible. Atleast on my D15B it was. I tried and it wouldn't budge. The dizzy has some sort of shaving(keylike) marks that only go one way on the camshaft.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebleek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ill pull my belt off and redo my timing but i never knew how to use a timing light.

the marks never made sense to me</TD></TR></TABLE>

Basically if you have an adjustable timing gun and you set it to 0* you will be looking for the white mark on pulley,if you set it at 12*(d16y8 timing) you will be looking for the middle red mark. You align them against some V looking thing on the timing belt cover. But please look into what your timing should be. 12* is for a y8 I don't know if it applies to a y7.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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I'd check the wires first, then make sure you're not a tooth off on the belt.

Is there any honda made where you can install the distributor 180 off? I see folks suggesting to check this all the time, but on the few cars I've worked on, the distributor is keyed off center so it's nearly impossible to install 180 out.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ncmech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the distributor is keyed off center so it's nearly impossible to install 180 out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The key words are here are "nearly impossible" remember, nothing is foolproof to a sufficiantly talented fool. This isn't a jab at the OP its just that i've seen way too many people force things to fit when they clearly don't.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The key words are here are "nearly impossible" remember, nothing is foolproof to a sufficiantly talented fool. This isn't a jab at the OP its just that i've seen way too many people force things to fit when they clearly don't.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't even think it was possible to put in 180* backwards for that reason exactly.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 08:12 AM
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it goes in, just not in all the way, and when you crank it, the dizzy does a wobble motion.... and you strip your dizzy bolts and then you have to resort to using a screw and nut.=] bad experiences suck
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 08:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mortificationrock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's virtually impossible. Atleast on my D15B it was. I tried and it wouldn't budge. The dizzy has some sort of shaving(keylike) marks that only go one way on the camshaft.

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You'd be amazed sir. I've seen it done before. It is hard, to someone who knows somewhat what they are doing like you or i it's a common sense. but i have seen it happen.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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the dizzy fit in fine with no problems
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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maybe ignition coil?
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