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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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I have a 91 civic hatch std. I was wondering if these models come with rear sway bars. I was thinking of getting a si rear sway bar is it worth it, does it make a difference. I also got another question i got SK2 coilovers but i feel alot of body roll i got it slammed, no strut bars or nothing whats the problem will a sway bar help.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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What model is it? I know my DX had no swaybars at all.
Edit: Just look. It's easy to see if you have it.
Swaybars definitely help with body roll.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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its a std. I heard it had none. Is it both or just the rear sway bar, or is it both front, and rear. I was thinking of getting ST rear sway bar
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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I think only the SI's came with rear sway bars. Your car does have a front sway bar but I'm not sure what size. There is a thread on sway bar sizes in the FAQ's thread and you should really try seardhing next time.
SI sway bar < ST sway bar (my 2 cents)
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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I think i would be good 2 keep the stock front and get a ST rear sway bar.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 12:40 AM
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As for as the hatchbacks go; I know the Std's don't have any, while the Si's have both front and rear. Not sure about the DX's.

For the CRX's, all of them had front bars but only the Si has a rear sway bar.

What sway bar size you're going with depends on your spring rates.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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Ima go with a 22mm ST rear sway bar, but ur saying i dont have one in the front either, i have a traction bar if that makes any difference in body roll?
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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The stock(and aftermarket) radius arm/traction bar does not help control roll at all. It's for controlling lateral movement of the front lower control arm.

You can get yourself one from a CRX if you want. Bolts in perfectly and you should already have the holes for it.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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My friend has a DX front sway bar (stock) ima just gonna get that, and get the st rear. will that be fine? and about the front sway bar will i need 2 change the bushings?
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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Change what bushing? If you referring to the sway bar bushing where it mounts on the crossmember; you wouldn't even have one since you don't have a sway bar. You'd just use the one from the DX.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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Does your Std have those factory tow-hooks bolted up to the chassis in the rear? If not, you might have to drill some holes to mount a rear bar.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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i dont think so, but the st sway bar is a kit, comes with brakets, and all this other crap.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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check to see if the bolt holes are there. If not, you'll have to drill through the floor and use very long bolts with washers to attach the brackets to the car... or do it some other way. If the holes are there and threaded, then it simply bolts right up.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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My 88 Std has the rear tow hooks, so I'd assume his 91 does too. I'm not positive on that though.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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First thing - CRX rear sway is 15mm and Civic hatch rear sway is only 13mm.
As far as I know, all had a front swaybar with the exception of civic hatch STD.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2310526

http://efcivicsedan.myfreeforu....html

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2326101

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1146145

http://static.summitracing.com...).pdf

http://www.gearz.org/Fun/Proje...r.htm

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jpciii &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check to see if the bolt holes are there. If not, you'll have to drill through the floor and use very long bolts with washers to attach the brackets to the car... or do it some other way. If the holes are there and threaded, then it simply bolts right up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is not relevant for the ST sway because it uses tow hook mounting points - not the factory sway bar mounting points. This info is relevant for mounting a factory style sway mounting bracket to a DX or STD without threaded holes.

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Modified by gringo7718 at 9:27 PM 9/1/2008


Modified by gringo7718 at 1:57 AM 9/2/2008
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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I think i would be good 2 keep the stock front and get a ST rear sway bar.

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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gringo7718 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First thing - CRX rear sway is 15mm and Civic hatch rear sway is only 13mm.
As far as I know, all had a front swaybar.</TD></TR></TABLE>
**All CRX's.

I know first hand that not all Civics had front sway.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Ok, so does it have one or not? If not does the dx one bolt right up?
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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Have what? Front or back?

I thought the thread was pretty clear.
Rear bars:
Only the Si's had them.
Front bars:
All CRXs and DX/Si Civics.

Front bars all swap in with no problems. Rear sway from a Si requires modifications listed in the links by gringo7718, while the ST does not require those mods.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gringo7718 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


This is not relevant for the ST sway because it uses tow hook mounting points - not the factory sway bar mounting points. This info is relevant for mounting a factory style sway mounting bracket to a DX or STD without threaded holes.
Modified by gringo7718 at 9:27 PM 9/1/2008

</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought that the Std models didn't have the factory tow hooks and also didn't have the threaded holes for those tow hooks... When I was researching ST bar installation, there where people who had to drill through the floor and use really long bolts. I actually bought a stock 91 Std a couple weeks ago, but it is stored 30 miles away. I wish I could just walk outside and look under it and report back here...
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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I just went outside to look at my car; and yup, there's tow hooks in the back with three bolts on each.

This is a 1988 Standard btw. I was thinking of grabbing pics but it's dark.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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All Civics and CRX should have tow hooks with three bolts each. (this is how ST bars attach to chassis)

Not all chassis had the sway bar mounting holes threaded.
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