Sway Bar Question
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B*a*n*n*e*d
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I have a 91 civic hatch std. I was wondering if these models come with rear sway bars. I was thinking of getting a si rear sway bar is it worth it, does it make a difference. I also got another question i got SK2 coilovers but i feel alot of body roll i got it slammed, no strut bars or nothing whats the problem will a sway bar help.
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its a std. I heard it had none. Is it both or just the rear sway bar, or is it both front, and rear. I was thinking of getting ST rear sway bar
I think only the SI's came with rear sway bars. Your car does have a front sway bar but I'm not sure what size. There is a thread on sway bar sizes in the FAQ's thread and you should really try seardhing next time.
SI sway bar < ST sway bar (my 2 cents)
SI sway bar < ST sway bar (my 2 cents)
As for as the hatchbacks go; I know the Std's don't have any, while the Si's have both front and rear. Not sure about the DX's.
For the CRX's, all of them had front bars but only the Si has a rear sway bar.
What sway bar size you're going with depends on your spring rates.
For the CRX's, all of them had front bars but only the Si has a rear sway bar.
What sway bar size you're going with depends on your spring rates.
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Ima go with a 22mm ST rear sway bar, but ur saying i dont have one in the front either, i have a traction bar if that makes any difference in body roll?
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The stock(and aftermarket) radius arm/traction bar does not help control roll at all. It's for controlling lateral movement of the front lower control arm.
You can get yourself one from a CRX if you want. Bolts in perfectly and you should already have the holes for it.
You can get yourself one from a CRX if you want. Bolts in perfectly and you should already have the holes for it.
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My friend has a DX front sway bar (stock) ima just gonna get that, and get the st rear. will that be fine? and about the front sway bar will i need 2 change the bushings?
Change what bushing? If you referring to the sway bar bushing where it mounts on the crossmember; you wouldn't even have one since you don't have a sway bar. You'd just use the one from the DX.
check to see if the bolt holes are there. If not, you'll have to drill through the floor and use very long bolts with washers to attach the brackets to the car... or do it some other way. If the holes are there and threaded, then it simply bolts right up.
First thing - CRX rear sway is 15mm and Civic hatch rear sway is only 13mm.
As far as I know, all had a front swaybar with the exception of civic hatch STD.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2310526
http://efcivicsedan.myfreeforu....html
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2326101
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1146145
http://static.summitracing.com...).pdf
http://www.gearz.org/Fun/Proje...r.htm
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jpciii »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check to see if the bolt holes are there. If not, you'll have to drill through the floor and use very long bolts with washers to attach the brackets to the car... or do it some other way. If the holes are there and threaded, then it simply bolts right up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is not relevant for the ST sway because it uses tow hook mounting points - not the factory sway bar mounting points. This info is relevant for mounting a factory style sway mounting bracket to a DX or STD without threaded holes.
V.S.
Modified by gringo7718 at 9:27 PM 9/1/2008
Modified by gringo7718 at 1:57 AM 9/2/2008
As far as I know, all had a front swaybar with the exception of civic hatch STD.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2310526
http://efcivicsedan.myfreeforu....html
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2326101
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1146145
http://static.summitracing.com...).pdf
http://www.gearz.org/Fun/Proje...r.htm
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jpciii »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check to see if the bolt holes are there. If not, you'll have to drill through the floor and use very long bolts with washers to attach the brackets to the car... or do it some other way. If the holes are there and threaded, then it simply bolts right up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is not relevant for the ST sway because it uses tow hook mounting points - not the factory sway bar mounting points. This info is relevant for mounting a factory style sway mounting bracket to a DX or STD without threaded holes.
V.S.
Modified by gringo7718 at 9:27 PM 9/1/2008
Modified by gringo7718 at 1:57 AM 9/2/2008
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gringo7718 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First thing - CRX rear sway is 15mm and Civic hatch rear sway is only 13mm.
As far as I know, all had a front swaybar.</TD></TR></TABLE>
**All CRX's.
I know first hand that not all Civics had front sway.
As far as I know, all had a front swaybar.</TD></TR></TABLE>
**All CRX's.
I know first hand that not all Civics had front sway.
Have what? Front or back?
I thought the thread was pretty clear.
Rear bars:
Only the Si's had them.
Front bars:
All CRXs and DX/Si Civics.
Front bars all swap in with no problems. Rear sway from a Si requires modifications listed in the links by gringo7718, while the ST does not require those mods.
I thought the thread was pretty clear.
Rear bars:
Only the Si's had them.
Front bars:
All CRXs and DX/Si Civics.
Front bars all swap in with no problems. Rear sway from a Si requires modifications listed in the links by gringo7718, while the ST does not require those mods.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gringo7718 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This is not relevant for the ST sway because it uses tow hook mounting points - not the factory sway bar mounting points. This info is relevant for mounting a factory style sway mounting bracket to a DX or STD without threaded holes.
Modified by gringo7718 at 9:27 PM 9/1/2008
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I thought that the Std models didn't have the factory tow hooks and also didn't have the threaded holes for those tow hooks... When I was researching ST bar installation, there where people who had to drill through the floor and use really long bolts. I actually bought a stock 91 Std a couple weeks ago, but it is stored 30 miles away. I wish I could just walk outside and look under it and report back here...
This is not relevant for the ST sway because it uses tow hook mounting points - not the factory sway bar mounting points. This info is relevant for mounting a factory style sway mounting bracket to a DX or STD without threaded holes.
Modified by gringo7718 at 9:27 PM 9/1/2008
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I thought that the Std models didn't have the factory tow hooks and also didn't have the threaded holes for those tow hooks... When I was researching ST bar installation, there where people who had to drill through the floor and use really long bolts. I actually bought a stock 91 Std a couple weeks ago, but it is stored 30 miles away. I wish I could just walk outside and look under it and report back here...
I just went outside to look at my car; and yup, there's tow hooks in the back with three bolts on each. 
This is a 1988 Standard btw. I was thinking of grabbing pics but it's dark.

This is a 1988 Standard btw. I was thinking of grabbing pics but it's dark.
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