i had a bmw m3 i sold it.. i have a 95 acura shell and i want to put a new motor in it. a b20 its a good motor with a strong block a little hp but strong. now an h23 theres alot of people that dont even know thats theree even an h23. an h23 as alot of hp and some good toq.. ok if u guys had the chance to buy one or the other wich one would u buy an d why???? the motors are almost the same it wount hurt me to buy any... and if i like the info u give the motor thats the one ill get...

 

h22 head/h23 block. Best of both worlds. Kinda like the LS block with longer stroke and the GSR head to gain vtec.

 

ya i got that i have an 94 acura with a b18c1 block and a b16b head its giving great power but with wat motor would u go for h23 b20 ?????

 

H23 Block, H22 Head, B16 tranny. Enough said.

 

haha someone is on there period

 

If it was me, I would see what is in the classified section and go from there. Find out what is available and in your budget. No matter what you get do reasearch before dropping the money for it.
Get a motor for cheap and rebuild it to how you want it. Just make sure that you can find engine mounts for whatever you end up with.

 

H23 Block, H22 Head, B16 tranny. Enough said.

Agreed!!!!! well maybe a GSR tranny if he already has it...

 

b16 tranny will bolt up to an h block? how

 

^a couple companies make H--->B tranny adapter plate kits. evolution and i forget the other.

 

H23 WOULD BE A BIG SWAP TO PUT IT IN THE INTEGRA .... BUT YOU WILL GET ALOT OF POWER

 

a plate was all that made sense to me. sorry if was stupid question, just i'm in the lude forum always and we just use the big block **** mostly. peace. if anyone can help i have a post about axles needed. help, if you can

 

I have an H22 head i might be able to sell to you ^^ but i was thinking about going w/ a h23 with a h22 head

 

^ redlude you said it yourself in your question. B16 tranny will fit h block? if you get the adapter plate kit from evolution the b-series tranny can mate to the h-series block. what do you mean "we just use the big block ****." b-series tranny is way better than h-series.

 

cool, i got it.. thanks for the help

 

i would say that is a pretty broad statement b series better than h series. are you kidding? what do i mean big block ****. i mean big block ****. don't act smart because i don't know an answer to a question you've read before. i could care less for your seemingly smart **** **** or anything b series to be honest. that's why a big block is going in. if you would care to banter, i'd love to, but remember h series = torque, b series = nothing an h series doesn't already have more of

 

red y u gotta be a dick and start talkin **** on b series we are all here cause of are love of honda products you know what else makes me sick is your attitude it is because of people like you that the rest of us honda lovers are classified as being uptight ******

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REDLUDE4WS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but remember h series = torque, b series = nothing an h series doesn't already have more of</TD></TR></TABLE>

You mean like weight, FRM sleeves, poor gear ratio's, and less parts?

 

i love your hate. i really don't care. h series have more power out the gate. don't need lots of parts, there are more than enough for h series. how am i getting hated on anyways? maybe you didn't read the ignorance beford hand. frm sleeves are fine. you can make just as much power in h22 w/o boost or need to sleeve. put an h series in your engine bay, see how you like it. if you've ever driven anything that had a b series in it and then drive the same car with h series, night and day. like 12s quarter mile with stock and slicks. how much boost do you need in a b series for that? and what you don't need to sleeve b series to make that kind of power. think first. b series doesn't have the juice my h23 has let alone even the comparison to an h series. i'm not talking ****, i'm simply making a known statement. h series is a big block. b series is not. compare a 350 to a 454. apples and oranges. read what i said. if i make you sick, then puke up reality. your boy you are defending said <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by letsdrive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ redlude you said it yourself in your question. B16 tranny will fit h block? if you get the adapter plate kit from evolution the b-series tranny can mate to the h-series block. what do you mean "we just use the big block ****." b-series tranny is way better than h-series.</TD></TR></TABLE> so i guess it goes both ways

 

FRM sleeves are NOT fine. You cant build the damn thing without sleeving it. Yes, I love the H22 out of the gate because it does produce good numbers, however, unless you want to just go I/H/E and don't plan on really building it, B series or K series is the way to go. When it comes to transmissions, B series is the way to go, but the H2B adapter plates are like $1000. For that price, you can use that $1000 difference to get a K swap and use a 6 speed tranny!

PS- The H22/H23 is a big block compared to a B18/B20? By .2 litres? Give me a break.

 

you are absolutely right. frm are a bitch to get crazy horse out of them. sleeving is necessary. no question. boost is not h series best friend. no question. you can build them without sleeving for high compression. also mahle does make a forged piston that is working quite well with frm sleeves, used for many different applications including n/a and turbocharged setups. there is lots of answers nowadays. it's not like when i was 20 and all this was new to the market. we had to make almost everything back then. we are all smarter now, we all know more. k series is $$$$$$. b series can produce good numbers, but it's not like you all of a sudden have a bulletproof block. i've seen ventilated b blocks. i'm sure you have too. h motors are monsters. i would take one over anything. and weight, c'mon dude, with a b motor 60-100 lbs might matter. it won't with an h series in there. seriously. torque gets you down the line. boost is not favourable for any honda, or honda would have produced forged lower end a long time before just recently. it's all relative lads. it all costs cash. i put an h23 in place of a b16a1 in my boys crx last week. the car is not the same. it lifts. it's just a monster. no track times, but i used to beat his *** up hard with my heavyass lude. now i can't touch him. stock on stock. b16a1 vs. h23a1. same car. what a difference. and his front end wasn't all of sudden scraping, but the pan and down pipe are a bit scary. point being, these motors are not comparable. try one out.

 

says the prelude owner .


Chill man your looking like a fan boy.

 

You say that you used to beat his *** in your heavy lude, and then two "sentences" later you say its the same car. Either way, a b16 is making the same hp numbers and peaking later than the h23 will. You are seriously arguing for this guy to swap in a motor that he wont be able to build compared to one that has tons of support. The h23 is a pos.