So I went to the store saturday night, picked up some things (car drove fine like usual on the way there) I came out of the store, started the car, went to leave but it wouldnt come out of park...

I noticed that my brake lights wouldnt come on when the brake pedal was pressed, and obviously she wouldnt come out of park. I put my spare key in the Shift Lock Release hole, and was able to get it out of park and drive it home, but no brakelights the whole way.

Any suggestions? This is my first automatic, so Im very unfimiliar with the way thier transmissions work. Possibly just a fuse or relay? Thanks in advance for help!

 

There's two switches at the bottom that the brake pedal presses when depressed.

One is the cruise control kill switch, which shuts off your cruise control when you hit the brake.

The other is your basic "brake sensor" - which activates the brake lights and disables the park safety switch when you depress the brake pedal.

The brake sensor is bad. It's a very cheap and easy part to change. Swap that out and you should be golden - unless it's the wiring to the sensor - but you get the idea.

All it is is a lil cylinder thing with a plunger type button that when depressed completes the circuit.



EDIT:
PS: What kind of gas mileage do you get with those things? I've noticed that the auto civics get better gas mileage than the manuals on the highway (not around town), and seeing as it's a B8 and all, I didn't even know they made the B8 with an auto trans - you gotta be pullin like mid 50's on the highway, no?

PSS:
As far as that part goes:
It's #17 in this diagram:


http://slhondaparts.com/browse...0-A03

As you can see, a 15 dollar part from OEM Honda.

Sorry for the confusion, there's only one sensor under there. I was thinking of the clutch pedal (that has 2 sensors, one for the cruise control kill, one for the starter kill).


Modified by Syndacate at 5:22 PM 8/25/2008

 

Awesome! Thanks bud! Hey are you going to that Farimington H-T meet this saturday?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daluv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Awesome! Thanks bud! Hey are you going to that Farimington H-T meet this saturday?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yessir I am !

I'm going back up to college (Rochester Institute of Technology) Wednesday or Thursday (classes start Monday), and Farmington is only like 20-30 minutes from my college - so indeed I will be there. Showin off my stock EX on steelies 'n all .

 

Nice Ill see ya there! As for my mileage... I honestly think I got more gas mileage out of my LS swapped hatch before I turboed it... BUT, I do think that I might need a new map sensor or a new fuel filter. Shes definatley in the 30's, but honestly with how much that thing likes to stay in higher rpms when cruising I dont see it hitting the 50's. Who knows though, shes the beater so i dont worry too much about her. 221K on its original motor and trans, doesnt burn oil, and this sensor is the first problem Ive had with it (minus minor stupid crap, exhaust leaks etc)


EDIT!!!!!
I didnt notice you specified highway mileage lol! Highway its pretty good. My downfall though is that most of my driving is around town, I dont hit any highways much. But I took a 6 hour trip to P.A. this past summer and I got there on a full tank, I think the trip was about 275 miles, about 1/2 of it was towns and crap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daluv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice Ill see ya there! As for my mileage... I honestly think I got more gas mileage out of my LS swapped hatch before I turboed it... BUT, I do think that I might need a new map sensor or a new fuel filter. Shes definatley in the 30's, but honestly with how much that thing likes to stay in higher rpms when cruising I dont see it hitting the 50's. Who knows though, shes the beater so i dont worry too much about her. 221K on its original motor and trans, doesnt burn oil, and this sensor is the first problem Ive had with it (minus minor stupid crap, exhaust leaks etc)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ah, I see.

I really don't think that's the orig trans though - even when I looked the part up on slhondaparts.com it didn't even give me a choice of auto or man on the trans selection for a '94 CX. Though I haven't seen a man to auto conversion recently, but never-the-less, a B8 with an auto trans is a good damn setup if you need to make a 100 mile commute to work every day or something. So it's possible a past owner did that...or it's possible I've just never heard of an OEM auto trans on a B8 until now .

Though there's no way to tell each other apart at the meet. Gonna have to go around wearing a viper avatar strapped to my face .

I know one guy there is going to have a black, boosted sol, he goes to RIT too. And another guy (think the guy who started the thread link in my signature) I think is gonna have a red TL or something.

*shrugs*

I doubt I'll see anybody there who I talk to / meet online, lol.

 

Lol you wont be able to miss my "thing" look for the only flat black hatch rolling on some old skewl orange prime wheels lol! Im pretty sure the tranny is the original, I atleast know its from A honda because it has an origonal honda tranny barcode on it (but who knows, stickers are just a peel away) Thanks again for your help, see ya saturday!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ah, I see.

I really don't think that's the orig trans though - even when I looked the part up on slhondaparts.com it didn't even give me a choice of auto or man on the trans selection for a '94 CX. Though I haven't seen a man to auto conversion recently, but never-the-less, a B8 with an auto trans is a good damn setup if you need to make a 100 mile commute to work every day or something. So it's possible a past owner did that...or it's possible I've just never heard of an OEM auto trans on a B8 until now .</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here in canada we got automatic CX's, they, along with all canadian market 5th gen CXs came with D15B7s though, automatics also had power steering.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Here in canada we got automatic CX's, they, along with all canadian market 5th gen CXs came with D15B7s though, automatics also had power steering.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, but I think OP is in America.

Ur CX is really a DX...well a USDM DX, anyways. Canada's a bit off on trim codes .

So if ur CX is our DX...
and your Si is our EX..
and your SiR is our Si..

A) What's your version of our CX?
B) What's our version of your SiR?

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daluv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lol you wont be able to miss my "thing" look for the only flat black hatch rolling on some old skewl orange prime wheels lol! Im pretty sure the tranny is the original, I atleast know its from A honda because it has an origonal honda tranny barcode on it (but who knows, stickers are just a peel away) Thanks again for your help, see ya saturday! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Alright, so I gotta look for you in a black hatch with orange rims.
I gotta look for the ROTC guy from RIT in a boosted del sol.
I gotta look for the other guy in a red TL.

Just keepin tabs... .

Yeah, np for the help - cya there.

 

Brake lights work? if they dont, replace the fuse. usually the problem.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pothole987 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Brake lights work? if they dont, replace the fuse. usually the problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Holy ****, did you even read his original post?

The fuse is NOT the problem, and if you're blowing fuses there's a BIGGER problem.

Stop posting, before you infect the rest of the sanity in this topic.

PS:
He couldn't get it out of park, either. Park safety switch is the same as the brake light switch, since neither works, it's obviously the brake switch, or the wiring to the brake switch.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A) What's your version of our CX?
B) What's our version of your SiR?
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A) Our 5th gen CX is the same as the US, except it came with a D15B7, we never got a D15B8 in canada in anything. Our CXs also didn't come with airbags or an upshift light. So essentially is marginally lighter with about 32hp on the US version which equals a surprisingly snappy little car right from the factory.
B) our SiR is the same as your Si

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

A) Our 5th gen CX is the same as the US, except it came with a D15B7, we never got a D15B8 in canada in anything. Our CXs also didn't come with airbags or an upshift light. So essentially is marginally lighter with about 32hp on the US version which equals a surprisingly snappy little car right from the factory.
B) our SiR is the same as your Si</TD></TR></TABLE>

A) Ah, I see.

B) Ah, i got that a bit messed up, didn't I.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So if ur CX is our DX...
and your Si is our EX..
and your SiR is our Si..

A) What's your version of our CX?
B) What's our version of your SiR?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I meant..

If our EX is your Si...
and our Si is your SiR...
Our EX is your ___ ?

Sorry, that got a bit confusaled on my part .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B) Ah, i got that a bit messed up, didn't I.

I meant..

If our EX is your Si...
and our Si is your SiR...
Our EX is your ___ ?

Sorry, that got a bit confusaled on my part .</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, you were right the first time; our EX is their Si. Which is funny because you repeated it twice, haha:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If our EX is your Si...
and our Si is your SiR...
Our EX is your ___ ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

5th Gen
US EX Sedan -&gt; Canadian EX-V
US LX Sedan -&gt; Canadian EX
US DX Sedan -&gt; Canadian LX
US DX hatchback -&gt; Canadian DX
US VX hatchback -&gt; Canadian VX
US Si hatchback -&gt; Canadian Si
US EX coupe -&gt; Canadian Si (ours came with only power windows and moonroof, no power windows and locks, at least on some of them, its possible that there was a power group option)
Some canadian 5th gen sedans did not have power mirrors, i've even seen loaded EX-Vs without a passengers side mirror, just the block off plate, are US civics like this?

6th Gen
US EX coupe -&gt; Canadian Si
US HX coupe -&gt; does not exist in canada (saw a US one in a junkyard once though, sadly didn't have the factory alloys on it though)
US Si Coupe -&gt; Canadian SiR
US LX sedan -&gt; Canadian EX
US DX sedan -&gt; Candian LX
US GX -&gt; does not exist in canada
US CX -&gt; canadian CX, could be had in automatic and with power steering, also there was an option package available in '96, possibly other years as well and it included a tachometer among other things, passengers side airbag was not standard on CXs in canada.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hushypushy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No, you were right the first time; our EX is their Si. Which is funny because you repeated it twice, haha:

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LoL

****, can't get this right at all.

What I meant was:
(Final time now, 3rd time's the charm), WHAT'S OUR VERSION OF YOUR EX!

Whew. Think I got it right that time, lol.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">5th Gen
US EX Sedan -&gt; Canadian EX-V
US LX Sedan -&gt; Canadian EX
US DX Sedan -&gt; Canadian LX
US DX hatchback -&gt; Canadian DX
US VX hatchback -&gt; Canadian VX
US Si hatchback -&gt; Canadian Si
US EX coupe -&gt; Canadian Si (ours came with only power windows and moonroof, no power windows and locks, at least on some of them, its possible that there was a power group option)
Some canadian 5th gen sedans did not have power mirrors, i've even seen loaded EX-Vs without a passengers side mirror, just the block off plate, are US civics like this?

6th Gen
US EX coupe -&gt; Canadian Si
US HX coupe -&gt; does not exist in canada (saw a US one in a junkyard once though, sadly didn't have the factory alloys on it though)
US Si Coupe -&gt; Canadian SiR
US LX sedan -&gt; Canadian EX
US DX sedan -&gt; Candian LX
US GX -&gt; does not exist in canada
US CX -&gt; canadian CX, could be had in automatic and with power steering, also there was an option package available in '96, possibly other years as well and it included a tachometer among other things, passengers side airbag was not standard on CXs in canada.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And survey says: LX!

There we go, 10 posts later my question is answered .

EDIT:
So excluding the weirdos (GX and HX), you guys basically have everything bumped up one until you get to the top where it overflows. Then you guys do what Canada does best. You tach an R onto it .

US &gt;&gt; CA
CX &gt;&gt; DX
DX &gt;&gt; LX
LX &gt;&gt; EX
EX &gt;&gt; SI
SI &gt;&gt; SiR

It's like a diagonal pattern.

You damn Canadians!

EDIT 2:
Does your EX have a Y7 or B7?

I'm feeling we're getting cheated out of an engine here due to the lack of B8 .


Modified by Syndacate at 9:43 PM 8/25/2008

 

Lol!!!!! What the heck did I miss!?!?!?

To possibly clear up some of the questions referring to my car and the canadian market...

My car has a "Made in Canada" tag on the radiator support. It also has power steering, but no CC and it has manual windows, it also has AC. I havent owned the car all of its life, but most of it (3rd owner, second owner was a friend of mine) I didnt meet my friend till after he already had the car for a little while, and back at that time the origin of the car wasnt at the top of my list of questions, just as long as it ran lol! So, it might be possible that it was originally a canadian car. This is what happens when canadians and americans interbreed lol! (j/k) Canada's cool in my book. Free healthcare and the Tragically Hip!

EDIT: Oh, I ordered the new switch earlier, itll be here tomorrow so we'll see if that takes care of the problem.

 

as i mentioned we only got EX sedans, no coupes. But the '92 - '95 EX sedan came with a D15B7, the EX-V came with the D16Z6, which leads me to believe that EX-V means EX, with vtec. The '96 - '00 EX sedans came with D16Y7s. Strangely enough the US actually recieved more engines than we did, even though we got more trim levels in some respects. We never got D15B8s (not that i'm complaining) or D16Y5s. I think most of the reasons we got some of these models is because we pay so much more for cars over here, even when the exchange rate was bad once you figured it all out we were still paying a lot more than you would in the US, so they gave us some more options. In canada VW introduced the city golf and city jetta exclusively in canada, these are essentially just 4th gen VWs with no diesel option. VW did this because from what I remember as of '07 a new rabbit in the US started at around $13,000, in canada i believe it was over $20,000. So the city golf was brought in, it started at around $14,000. Hopefully this kind of explains some of this.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daluv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lol!!!!! What the heck did I miss!?!?!?

To possibly clear up some of the questions referring to my car and the canadian market...

My car has a "Made in Canada" tag on the radiator support. It also has power steering, but no CC and it has manual windows, it also has AC..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where the car was made has nothing to do with it being a canadian or US car. My civic was made in japan, but it was built for the canadian market. we got daytime running lights on all models, thats a good giveaway, we also didn't get airbags in CXs, thats another clue. There should also be a transport canada sticker inside the door jam.

 

mikey i read through like half this thread before i realized it was you, why didnt you give me a call thats the same prob mel's teg had (just no tail light prob)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Where the car was made has nothing to do with it being a canadian or US car. My civic was made in japan, but it was built for the canadian market. we got daytime running lights on all models, thats a good giveaway, we also didn't get airbags in CXs, thats another clue. There should also be a transport canada sticker inside the door jam.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I figured so.

Maybe there is a glitch with those honda parts places? (HAP does the same thing, wont let you select an automatic for the CX model) Might be something that they over looked when making the site. In the picture above, it does show the automatic counterpart next to the "selected" manual part. I know that mine isnt the only 94 automatic cx out there. So maybe it is original and the parts places just didnt put it in a seperate categorey and has both auto and manual on each picture for sake of saving website space??? That could explain it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JoeDel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mikey i read through like half this thread before i realized it was you, why didnt you give me a call thats the same prob mel's teg had (just no tail light prob)

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Lol! Hey Joe! Dyno tune tomorrow!!!!!

 

BACK ON TOPIC THOUGH...

Put the new switch in just now, no fix...

However, I cleaned the block a little, and it does have the B7, so it might be a DX after all. None the less, the new switch didnt help. Any more suggestions???

 

as for ur problem for ur tranny not shifting out of park. A shift-interlock-equipped car that won’t shift out of
Park may have a bad throttle position (TP) sensor.
Measure the TP sensor voltage at idle (refer to section
11 of the appropriate S/M); it should be 0.5 V. If the TP
sensor voltage is 0.7 V or more, the shift interlock
system won’t let you shift the transmission out of Park.
(This won’t cause a PGM-FI code; the ECM just thinks
the throttle is open slightly.) If the TP sensor is at fault,
replace the throttle body.

I hope this will help!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daluv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BACK ON TOPIC THOUGH...

Put the new switch in just now, no fix...

However, I cleaned the block a little, and it does have the B7, so it might be a DX after all. None the less, the new switch didnt help. Any more suggestions???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Open or short in the wiring, check the fuse under the hood labled stop/horn, see if its blown, not sure if that fuse is blown if it will still come out of park or if just the brake lights are affected.

 

Bringing this back from the dead because I finally fixed the damn thing lol, and I figured that it might be helpful to someone else in the future! It was one of the wires going to the brakelight switch (as suggested earlier,) it wasnt getting power. I ran a new wire to it from a remote power source (only power when car is on) and she works fine now lol! F-ing automatics!