Rubbing bad in my new 5th gen...pics inside...maybe lack of bumpstop causing it?
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Rubbing bad in my new 5th gen...pics inside...maybe lack of bumpstop causing it?
Well the front tires on my recently acquired prelude rub the inner fender pretty bad.
After inspection I see that there are no front bumpstops. I ordered the Energy Suspension Front bumpstops and hope this solves the problem.
The previous owner lowered on tokiko blue shocks w/ eibach sportlines. Will I need to trim the new bumpstops, if so how much?
Also, do you think the lack of bumpstops could be causing my problems?
After inspection I see that there are no front bumpstops. I ordered the Energy Suspension Front bumpstops and hope this solves the problem.
The previous owner lowered on tokiko blue shocks w/ eibach sportlines. Will I need to trim the new bumpstops, if so how much?
Also, do you think the lack of bumpstops could be causing my problems?
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No the lack of bumpstops has nothing to do with it. Cars very rarely hit bumpstops, they are simply there as a last resort if the shock runs out of travel so you don't have a metal on metal contact. Otherwise they are just a piece of dense foam that do nothing.
I'd say you either have the wrong tire size, or the car could be in dire need of an alignment. Chances are the douche that installed the springs/shocks who was obviously dumb enough to toss the bumpstops probably never got the car properly lined up after he [freak]ed up the install. It also looks like he broke the rubber boot on your upper control arm (I think I see grease) while he installed them because he didn't use the proper tool to separate them during install.
If the bumpstops you ordered are identical oem replacements I'd trim them in half.
PS. If you know who installed the shocks/springs find them and fart in their mouth.
I'd say you either have the wrong tire size, or the car could be in dire need of an alignment. Chances are the douche that installed the springs/shocks who was obviously dumb enough to toss the bumpstops probably never got the car properly lined up after he [freak]ed up the install. It also looks like he broke the rubber boot on your upper control arm (I think I see grease) while he installed them because he didn't use the proper tool to separate them during install.
If the bumpstops you ordered are identical oem replacements I'd trim them in half.
PS. If you know who installed the shocks/springs find them and fart in their mouth.
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Re: Rubbing bad in my new 5th gen...pics inside...maybe lack of bumpstop causing it? (slammin86)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammin86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The previous owner lowered on tokiko blue shocks w/ eibach sportlines. Will I need to trim the new bumpstops, if so how much?
Also, do you think the lack of bumpstops could be causing my problems?</TD></TR></TABLE>
As far as a lack of bumpstops- It doesn't seem to be causing problems, since your tires bottom out before the shock does!
Bumpstops can help but you really need more spring in front, or you need to raise it, or get shorter tires.
What are the springrates? How far does it travel before it starts to rub?
Here's my car with similar rubbing. It rubs even when I went up to 1000 lb springs. Trying to make 255/40R17's fit. They sorta fit.
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
Anyway, good luck.
The previous owner lowered on tokiko blue shocks w/ eibach sportlines. Will I need to trim the new bumpstops, if so how much?
Also, do you think the lack of bumpstops could be causing my problems?</TD></TR></TABLE>
As far as a lack of bumpstops- It doesn't seem to be causing problems, since your tires bottom out before the shock does!
Bumpstops can help but you really need more spring in front, or you need to raise it, or get shorter tires.
What are the springrates? How far does it travel before it starts to rub?
Here's my car with similar rubbing. It rubs even when I went up to 1000 lb springs. Trying to make 255/40R17's fit. They sorta fit.
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
Anyway, good luck.
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I'm pretty sure he's running factory rims with oem sized rubber.
How fast are you going when the rubbing occurs? Another thought I just had is that if you are taking corners HARD the Tokico blues probably just aren't stiff enough of a shock and allow to much movement. You might just not have a stiff enough suspension for the type of abuse you deliver. If that's the case it might be worth while to pickup some Koni Yellows or Tokico Illuminas, or save your money and slow down.
How fast are you going when the rubbing occurs? Another thought I just had is that if you are taking corners HARD the Tokico blues probably just aren't stiff enough of a shock and allow to much movement. You might just not have a stiff enough suspension for the type of abuse you deliver. If that's the case it might be worth while to pickup some Koni Yellows or Tokico Illuminas, or save your money and slow down.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by classified »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No the lack of bumpstops has nothing to do with it. Cars very rarely hit bumpstops, they are simply there as a last resort if the shock runs out of travel so you don't have a metal on metal contact. Otherwise they are just a piece of dense foam that do nothing.
I'd say you either have the wrong tire size, or the car could be in dire need of an alignment. Chances are the douche that installed the springs/shocks who was obviously dumb enough to toss the bumpstops probably never got the car properly lined up after he [freak]ed up the install. It also looks like he broke the rubber boot on your upper control arm (I think I see grease) while he installed them because he didn't use the proper tool to separate them during install.
If the bumpstops you ordered are identical oem replacements I'd trim them in half.
PS. If you know who installed the shocks/springs find them and fart in their mouth.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah I am running factory sized rubber.
I am going to put on bump stops and see if that helps...maybe it would hit the bumpstop before the tire hit the fender. I do not know if the energy bump stops are the same size as factory or not. Hopefully someone on here knows.
Once I get the bumpstops on I am going to get it alligned.
That isn't grease on the boot, it is tar. There is a lot of tar on the wheel wells of this car.
I'd say you either have the wrong tire size, or the car could be in dire need of an alignment. Chances are the douche that installed the springs/shocks who was obviously dumb enough to toss the bumpstops probably never got the car properly lined up after he [freak]ed up the install. It also looks like he broke the rubber boot on your upper control arm (I think I see grease) while he installed them because he didn't use the proper tool to separate them during install.
If the bumpstops you ordered are identical oem replacements I'd trim them in half.
PS. If you know who installed the shocks/springs find them and fart in their mouth.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah I am running factory sized rubber.
I am going to put on bump stops and see if that helps...maybe it would hit the bumpstop before the tire hit the fender. I do not know if the energy bump stops are the same size as factory or not. Hopefully someone on here knows.
Once I get the bumpstops on I am going to get it alligned.
That isn't grease on the boot, it is tar. There is a lot of tar on the wheel wells of this car.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by classified »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm pretty sure he's running factory rims with oem sized rubber.
How fast are you going when the rubbing occurs? Another thought I just had is that if you are taking corners HARD the Tokico blues probably just aren't stiff enough of a shock and allow to much movement. You might just not have a stiff enough suspension for the type of abuse you deliver. If that's the case it might be worth while to pickup some Koni Yellows or Tokico Illuminas, or save your money and slow down.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It doesn't seem to happen during every day normal driving.
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As far as a lack of bumpstops- It doesn't seem to be causing problems, since your tires bottom out before the shock does!
Bumpstops can help but you really need more spring in front, or you need to raise it, or get shorter tires.
What are the springrates? How far does it travel before it starts to rub?
Here's my car with similar rubbing. It rubs even when I went up to 1000 lb springs. Trying to make 255/40R17's fit. They sorta fit.
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
Anyway, good luck.
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I do not know what the springrates are. I know they are eibach sportlines.
How fast are you going when the rubbing occurs? Another thought I just had is that if you are taking corners HARD the Tokico blues probably just aren't stiff enough of a shock and allow to much movement. You might just not have a stiff enough suspension for the type of abuse you deliver. If that's the case it might be worth while to pickup some Koni Yellows or Tokico Illuminas, or save your money and slow down.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It doesn't seem to happen during every day normal driving.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As far as a lack of bumpstops- It doesn't seem to be causing problems, since your tires bottom out before the shock does!
Bumpstops can help but you really need more spring in front, or you need to raise it, or get shorter tires.
What are the springrates? How far does it travel before it starts to rub?
Here's my car with similar rubbing. It rubs even when I went up to 1000 lb springs. Trying to make 255/40R17's fit. They sorta fit.
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
http://www.facebook.com/photo....7044c
Anyway, good luck.
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I do not know what the springrates are. I know they are eibach sportlines.
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I do not know if the energy bump stops are the same size as factory or not. Hopefully someone on here knows.
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I just got energy bumpstops on my prelude and they are about 1/2 the length of OEM....
I do not know if the energy bump stops are the same size as factory or not. Hopefully someone on here knows.
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I just got energy bumpstops on my prelude and they are about 1/2 the length of OEM....
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I just got energy bumpstops on my prelude and they are about 1/2 the length of OEM....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Perfect that is exactly what I needed to hear.
Thank you.
I just got energy bumpstops on my prelude and they are about 1/2 the length of OEM....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Perfect that is exactly what I needed to hear.
Thank you.
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How low is the car? I assume there is some issue with alignment/ camber, or the shocks are toast, since my car is extremely low and on factory rubber would not do that, since swapping to different offset wheels I get a small rub when backing up with the wheel cranked, but not ever when driving. I do occasionally hit bumpstops when I hit a nasty ridge or pothole though, and I have stock bumpstops trimmed in 1/2.
Edit: I dunno how much difference it makes since I have a 4th gen!
Edit: I dunno how much difference it makes since I have a 4th gen!
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