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D168Y8 problems galore... please help

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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Default D168Y8 problems galore... please help

Well, I've been fixing my car for over a month now and it still has problems. Here are the codes it is throwing:

22 - VTEC coil
65 - Secondary o2 sensor (not worried about this)
91 - Fuel tank pressure sensor

Two questions about this:

1. I can replace the VTEC solenoid if needed, but will a z6 solenoid fit? They are much more plentiful

2. Where is the fuel tank pressure sensor?

And the other problem: bad idle.

I have the 3-wire to 2-wire conversion (throttle body IACV to y8 engine harness) and have replaced the IACV, but the car still idles between 1500-2500 rpm. When I replaced the IACV it went down from 2000-3000 to the lower numbers, so I think that the IACV is working (no code 14 being thrown either). However, it still idles poorly, and I don't know why. There are no vacuum leaks at all, the IACV is bolted up correctly.

Could someone suggest some things to look for? I guess I don't know what's wrong so I don't know what I am doing in this case. The only thing that I have thought about doing was replacing the intake manifold with one that has provisions for a IM mounted IACV, which is the one that ideally would be on my motor. But I honestly don't know any more... I'm about to just pull the motor and sell the shell and motor separately so someone else can mess with it.


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Sean
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2127246

This thread contains a few suggestions about your bad idle.

I know you aren't throwing a code 14 but this may help still...

Good luck
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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1. there is no vtec coil yes the z6 solenoid will fit

2. pressure sensor is in the tank
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Thanks for the help.

I meant the VTEC pressure valve :-/

I cleaned the IACV and put it back on and now it waivers between 1500-2500rpm much more like it did before. There aren't any massive vacuum leaks that I can tell, but I will test out more stuff tomorrow I guess.

Could it possibly be the MAP sensor?
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Try bleeding your coolant system. Air bubbles in your coolant system can cause a fluctuating idle. (throwing off the iacv sensor)
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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91 - Fuel tank pressure sensor

Could be caused by a bad gas cap. If it doesn't hold the pressure and leaks, you will throw a code 91. Swap it out with a known good cap from one of your buudies, clear out the code and see what happens.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by esco562 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try bleeding your coolant system. Air bubbles in your coolant system can cause a fluctuating idle. (throwing off the iacv sensor) </TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting... how would you recommend bleeding the coolant system? Running the car for a bit with the radiator cap off so it cycles the coolant and can purge air bubbles into the atmosphere?

I just replaced the coolant, so that could possibly be a (or the) problem.

I will also check the gas cap tomorrow.


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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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Default Re: D168Y8 problems galore... please help (everlight44)

Any other ideas of things to look for? And is there a sure-fire way to tell if a TB mounted IACV is working?

Thanks
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