i need some help or tips on which sway bars to use to help make my car more neutral.

i have a 1994 civic EX, my intentions with the cars is to just have fun. i want a tighter cornering set-up. i plan on using a koni/GC set-up with spring rates of 380F/450R or 450F/380R.

i was looking at maybe using a stock 22mm ITR rear sway bar or maybe a 14mm GSR sway bar.

any opinion or advice would be of help TIA

 

I ran 380/450 F/R for almost a year on my GS-R, with a 100-mile daily commute and it was VERY harsh. I had my stock 24mm Integra front bar and 22mm ITR rear bar, and it did handle quite well, though. However my springs were 8" long up front and 7" long in the back, so I couldn't really swap them front to rear.

You would be better going with a softer rear spring, though, to help reduce harshness. A larger rear sway bar will effectively increase your spring rate during cornering, without adding harshness while driving slowly or in a straight line.

If I had to do it again, I would probably go more like 380/350.

 

thanks for the advice. also im just tring to firgure out if i should balance the rear with a soft spring and large sway bar OR hard spring and small sway bar.

i know i wanna keep the front sway bar at 21mm. but the fron spring im debating on if i want 380 or 450

 

Front spring rate doesn't make so much of a difference as the rear does when it comes to perceived ride quality and harshness. That's because there is so much less weight in the rear.

Think of when a truck pulls a lightweight trailer behind it with nothing on it, compared to something like a car on it. Or think of pushing a wheelbarrow with nothing in it, vs. a loaded wheelbarrow. Unloaded, it's very bumpy and bounces all over the place. Add load, and it rides more smoothly.

One thing to remember, though, is that a stiffer swaybar with softer springs is going to put more stress on the subframe, since the bar is having to work harder to counteract the roll allowed by the softer springs. Now I have a stock ITR bar in the rear with a Beaks mount kit, as well as OEM ITR rear springs, and I have not had a problem. If you go with a rear bar larger than the stock ITR 22mm then you'll have to keep the springs somewhere above the stock ITR's rear spring rate to be safe.

 

ok cool thanks alot for the tips anyone else in this same boat ???

 

I ran my 92 hatch on the street for many years.
The setup I loved, Neuspeed Race on Tokico Illuminas, extended tophats, 24mmF/22mmR sways, traction bars and a bunch of chassis bracing to keep the chassis from flexing.

This setup had enough understeer to keep the car in check even if you do something stupid. Yet stable enough to have a lot of fun with it no matter where you are. The springs are progressive so if you're cornering hard the soft portion of the springs give way to the stiffer rates, which plants the car and it corners really nice.

BTW, 22mm rear you'll need some rear subframe bracing. the ASR piece is worth every penny.