Road Racing / Autocross & Time Attack Road Racing / AUTOX, HPDE, Time Attack

non Honda: Suspension setup suggestions for this car?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 04:39 AM
  #1  
celica73's Avatar
Thread Starter
New User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
From: Durham, NC, USA
Default non Honda: Suspension setup suggestions for this car?

This is a good picture from the most recent Tar Heel Sports Car Club autocross. Lets analyze this one. I'd sure love my front drive car to be able to overteer in spite of that rather small amount of front end grip.




Edit: Full sized picture, not thumb-nail


[Modified by celica73, 1:40 PM 7/23/2002]
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 05:47 AM
  #2  
slowSER's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 1,758
Likes: 0
From: Lookin for a piss yellow, deuce coupe
Default Re: non Honda: Suspension setup suggestions for this car? (celica73)

This is a good picture from the most recent Tar Heel Sports Car Club autocross.
Was this the same autocross where MaddMatt got beat by a ricey Neon?
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 06:37 AM
  #3  
Drew M's Avatar
New User
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 8,960
Likes: 1
From: I hate, you
Default Re: non Honda: Suspension setup suggestions for this car? (celica73)

No suggestions necessary. That is what the car is supposed to be doing. Evidently you have never seen a 911 carry its inside front tire the entire way around T1 at VIR. A properly set up 911 will do that.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 06:48 AM
  #4  
Mojo-Jojo's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
From: Fresno, CA, USA
Default Re: non Honda: Suspension setup suggestions for this car? (Drew M)

This is a good picture from the most recent Tar Heel Sports Car Club autocross.
Lets analyze this one. I'd sure love my front drive car to be able to overteer in spite of that rather small amount of front end grip.
I'm really confused...is he asking to make the Porsche oversteer? If so, why is he calling it front wheel drive?

If he's asking for a different car why the pic of the Porsche?

I don't get it.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 06:51 AM
  #5  
r2x's Avatar
r2x
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,161
Likes: 0
From: Merrimack,, NH, USA
Default Re: non Honda: Suspension setup suggestions for this car? (Mojo-Jojo)

Scott drives a FWD Celica... I am thinking he wishes his car could do what Patrice's is doing.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 06:54 AM
  #6  
celica73's Avatar
Thread Starter
New User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
From: Durham, NC, USA
Default Re: non Honda: Suspension setup suggestions for this car? (r2x)

r2x understands what I am saying.

My Celica (and I suspect very few honda's) have this magnificent ability (unless you drive in reverse of course).

I realize it's all in the weight distribution, but I particularly like the fact you can clearly see the steering correction, yet in spite of the fact ther eis only one front wheel on the ground, the car is still loose.

Scott
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 07:24 AM
  #7  
Mojo-Jojo's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
From: Fresno, CA, USA
Default Re: non Honda: Suspension setup suggestions for this car? (celica73)

Ah, I see.

Well...you can't lift the front tires in a front engined car. I'm not sure if the drive wheels have as much to do with it as where the engine is.

But, front engined, front wheel drive cars like our Civics can lift the inside REAR wheel.





I actually saw this happen in person at my first auto-x. A guy was running a totally stock VW A1 GTI and doing this on nearly every turn. He was so smooth too. Crazy ****.

[edit]
**********
Oy...okay okay.

Although, then my original guess may have been right. You guys that are talking about it have RWD cars.

So, has anyone lifted the front inside wheel of a front engined, front wheel drive car?

(I'm editing because I'm still a trial user and can't post more than 5 times. Argh.)


[Modified by Mojo-Jojo, 8:43 AM 7/23/2002]
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 07:35 AM
  #8  
Drew M's Avatar
New User
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 8,960
Likes: 1
From: I hate, you
Default Re: non Honda: Suspension setup suggestions for this car? (Mojo-Jojo)

Well...you can't lift the front tires in a front engined car.
Sure you can. I have done it in my father's Camaro. It doesn't happen often but it can still occur if you have enough swaybar. We have also lifted the inside rear tire on the same Camaro. Both incidents occurred when we were trying different swaybars.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 07:39 AM
  #9  
Warren's Avatar
Wrong-Way Wang
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,168
Likes: 0
Default Re: non Honda: Suspension setup suggestions for this car? (Mojo-Jojo)

Well...you can't lift the front tires in a front engined car. I'm not sure if the drive wheels have as much to do with it as where the engine is.
I lift the front inside on my E30 M3. It happens on E36's too. Dunno about a setup E46.

Warren
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dc2teg06
Appearance Build Threads
155
Sep 8, 2010 11:33 AM
kb58
Road Racing / Autocross & Time Attack
15
May 9, 2008 11:53 AM
alteredautosports
Drag Racing
249
Sep 6, 2005 10:14 PM
WeakEK
Acura Integra
4
Jul 12, 2004 08:59 AM
2000Accord5sp
Road Racing / Autocross & Time Attack
7
Dec 19, 2002 11:04 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:02 AM.