So first off, I have a 95 si h23. Apexi N1 muffler with stainless steel piping from cat back. And an ebay cold air intake. I am wondering what i should do next? I was thinking maybe a clutch as mine occasionally slips. I actually want some rims but they seem like such a waste of money as i could get something pretty good performance wise for that price. Maybe an intake manifold? Performance springs and struts? Maybe just a simple short shifter? I have thought about headers but i am planning to go turbo in about a year or so. Maybe some cams and a good tune? please offer your insight.


fyi: I am looking to keep it a daily driver.


Modified by playa192 at 5:52 PM 8/10/2008

 

It all depends on what you want to do with the car. Do you want it to be show worthy? AutoX? Drag? etc.

If it was me personally, I would invest in a good suspension but it all depends on what you want to do to the car.

 

well first of replace the clutch and flywheel since its already slipping...than as mentioned, suspension should be your next step

 

Go with a Koni/Ground control setup ,it should run you 700 or so , but will be so worth it

 

x2 I have koni yellows/gc on my eg...absolutely love it..id pay for it again...and again..and in fact i just bought a 93 prelude, and thats my second stop after a new intake manifold

 

well i thought about that but i am looking more towards drag. i just mainly want a faster car. not as much handling. But then again suspension would also put power to the ground would it not? But yeah to answer your question i will be doing drag when i take it to the track.

 

i have actually heard that headers can do a lot for an h23? like in the 15whp range is that true? if it is would it be worth it to get headers then sell them in about 1 year when i go fi?

EDIT: then i also thought maybe get some custom 3 '' cat back piping. because i also heard that the h series take well to 3 '' exhuast even when not fi. the reason i didnt get a cat-back in the first place is because my dad said that stainless steel is pretty expensive and it is nice.

 

15whp?????where did you get that from...about 5-10 crank hp not to the wheels.....and you only have one so you would be selling IT but i dont know why you would wanna sell it....3" exhaust is pretty big for a N/A h23 but ive seen plenty of people do it....i would do the suspension(thats usually the first thing i do before any power adders)

 

some guy on this search (search being headers on archived content) said that https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch headers on an h23 will get you like 15whp. i looked and i cant find it again. and i would be selling it to get a turbo manifold as i said i would be going FI in the future. so if 3 " was to big for N/A anyways it would fit eventually when i go FI. why would you do the suspension first? (just wondering) because i dont really want handling as much as speed.

EDIT: i found it. it was actually under exhaust manifold.

"You wont see very good gains from either one, this is just a guess though becaue you did not say anything about your current setup, engine, plans... A DC header on an H23 may show up to 15WHP because the H23 header is very restrictive, whereas the same header on an H22 may show up to a 5 WHP gain. Overall the header is a waste of money for the H22 line, but is the best thing offered for the H23."


Modified by playa192 at 1:59 PM 8/11/2008

 

don't bother with the header if your going turbo period.
The few (and he is likely missinformed about the 15 Whp off a header for an h23) horsepower you'd get for the 100-150 doller (cheap header) would be better saved up for perhaps tuning or even a programable ecu such as a p72, p28 etc. Even if you bought the best of N/A header for a G, its still going to get tossed when you put in the turbo.

Infact what kind of coin do you have expendable?

Without us knowing that, we can't properly advise you. If its above a thousand dollars you way as well start off by buying parts towards your turbo setup and either store it, or buy parts you may install now without interferring with anything.

With a turbo setup you will need suspension upgraded so as others have said you should probably start with that!

Clutch would be good idea. Get OEM honda parts for it and call it a day in my opinion.

Other than that you could shove a bottle of NOS in there. Thats almost the best bang for your dollar if you just want to drag and have a bit of semi expensive fun occasionally. The nos as far as I understand could be used with the turbo later on with the proper tuning / setup? Or am I mistaken.

 

don't bother with the header if your going turbo period.
The few (and he is likely missinformed about the 15 Whp off a header for an h23) horsepower you'd get for the 100-150 doller (cheap header) would be better saved up for perhaps tuning or even a programable ecu such as a p72, p28 etc.

Infact what kind of coin do you have expendable?

Without us knowing that, we can't properly advise you. If its above a thousand dollars you way as well start off by buying parts towards your turbo setup and either store it, or buy parts you may install now without interferring with anything.

With a turbo setup you will need suspension upgraded so as others have said you should probably start with that!

Clutch would be good idea. Get OEM honda parts for it and call it a day in my opinion.

Other than that you could shove a bottle of NOS in there. Thats almost the best bang for your dollar if you just want to drag and have a bit of semi expensive fun occasionally. The nos as far as I understand could be used with the turbo later on with the proper tuning / setup? Or am I mistaken.

 

ya i have about a thousand dollars right now to answer that. So you have to get suspension upgraded to run a turbo? Is that just for traction issues? Also what kind of parts would work towards a turbo could i get without interferring with anything?

 

You're not ready for Turbo. By reading some of your questions I get the feeling that you are just now entering a class called .. Auto 101. To run a turbo setup, install the majority of the parts yourself and to understand what mods you need to go along with that turbo you really need to RESEARCH and not post questions like these because all of this has been covered in the past. Get an OEM clutch, some crap headers and head over to your local shop for the install and there goes your $ 1000. You're just not ready fro that turbo right now or in the next year.. Research and you will find what you're looking for.

 

i have researched a ton first of all. 2nd of all i would not have a shop install headers and a clutch. and if you read the top i would be going fi in about a year. so it would not be right now. so maybe you should read the whole topic before you post something.

 

Alright, then I recommend clutch and suspension. Why would you even consider upgrading your intake manifold at this point, whats wrong with yours ? It just seems to me that you won't be asking these questions if you actually did your research. Oh well.

 

save your money to be able to spend money on the "big picture"

 

and the "big picture" is?

EDIT: O ya to answer street_ride14's question i thought of an intake manifold because i did research and found this https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2308216&page=1. sounded pretty good to me so i was wonderin if that would be good or not.

 

figure it out yourself.

 

now i see why you have 12k posts. just post 2 usless things in each topic and there ya go

 

is critical thinking really that difficult?

search my name and im sure you will find a lot of useless stuff

 

i know i was just kidding i have read many helpful things you have wrote. I just have no clue what you are talking about.

 

why hasn't anyone recommended an H22 swap or "slapping" on an h22 head to an H23 block?

 

So would it be a good idea to put a h22 head on my h23?

 

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Wow ....
Are you serious ?

 

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Wow ....
Are you serious ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
k you just go away now. EDIT: Sorry i mean would it be more benificial to do that or to get a clutch and/or suspension?


Modified by playa192 at 11:52 AM 8/15/2008