Hey Guys,

Doing the mini-me swap on my 90 CRX si... Cannot get the crankshaft pulley off. Used a breaker ar (with a screwdriver through the cam gear) and an impact wrench. I cannot get this sucker off. The threads say to use an impact wrench and it would work. Any ideas? Thanks in advance...

Brian

EDIT: Aight so I am done now... Got a few loose ends on the CRX to tie up. I started her up and she ran. HOWEVER... I realized that I oil was spurting out of the VTEC solenoid, and I do not have a sensor that should be on there... I contacted my friend who sold me the head... He does not know what it looks like. Here is a pic of the solenoid from the passenger side of the engine... Now I know that I was very hasty doing this swap, but my preparation and constant studying of my Haynes guide and the threads on how to to mini-me's, and luck made this swap possible, fun, and an excellent learning experience... Can someone help mepoint me in the right direction for the sensor I need? Much thanks guys.

The solenoid with the sensor before I plugged it....

Brian


Modified by DEPintheCurve at 8:37 PM 8/17/2008

 

when i usually cant break them loose i take it to a shop to break it loose on a good day they will do it for free. what size impact and compressor do you have? and i personaly dont think a screw driver through the cam gear is a good idea.

 

not sure about yours but my friends car had holes on the stock crank pulley...on the house of it, we just put 2 bolts through it and and breaker bar with a pipe on the end.

 

im running into the same problem my self. dont mean to thread jack but does d series trannys have the same hole like in h22 trannys so u can insert a pry bar?

 

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Yeah, do not be like me... Screwdriver through the cam gear is not a smart idea... I have been told you should wedge something through the flywheel to keep it from moving.

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Mine has holes in it too. Did you just slide the bolts through and they caught on something, keeping the pulley from turning?

I am not really sure what size compressor and impact I am using, as I borrowed them from a neighbor down the street. I am helping a friend's son move some BMWs from Pennsylvania down to his store today though, so I am going to see if he has any ideas...

Thanks,

Brian

 

Ok so I have been told you can jam something in the flywheel to keep the engine from moving... Can you do this on a d16a6? If so, shed some light for me?

 

somebody on here has to have some sort of knowledge to impart on us...

 

yeah you can do that on an a6. there is a flywheel access panel on the bottom next to the oil pan. if you take that panel off, you can get something up in there to jam the flywheel.

An easier way though is just to put the lug nuts back on the front to hold the brake rotors, then have a buddy put it in first gear and mash the brakes. it will do the same thing. then set your air compressor to 120 psi, and pound away on it. just make sure you use a 6 point impact socket.

a third way is to wind in a couple bolts into the holes on the crank pulley, and then use something to lever against the 2 bolts to hold the crank pulley still.

Honda also makes a special tool for crank pulley removal, which is what i have. It works great if your crank pulley works with it, but i dont think the stock EF pulley works with it, but just about everything 92+ works.

 

Thanks man. I will check it out when I get home from work tonight. Yeah I think that tool will not work... I am going to try to get at it with the flywheel. I will not damage it if I do it that way? When I did it with the cam gear, the holes on the outer edge of the gear showed stress from pulling, so I stopped. You could also hear the tension...

 

the flywheel is pretty meaty, and the starter is not exactly gentle on it.. so you should be much better off than using the cam gears

mashing the brakes in first gear is the easiest way, in case you were wondering.

 

http://www.moroso.com/catalog/...27115

 

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yeah, that tool is awesome for most 92+ and b-series crank pulleys, but the 88-91 pulley isn't machined to accept that tool


Modified by sanimalp at 10:51 AM 8/12/2008

 

Yeah whatever anyone does, do not use the cam gears.... haha I learned that the hard way, but this IS a learning process for me.

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mashing the brakes in first gear is the easiest way, in case you were wondering. </TD></TR></TABLE>

When you say mash, I am assuming that I should put the car in first with the engine off (obviously) and hit the brakes?

 

Also, does anyone know of a crank pulley that would work on the d16a6 block, allowing me to use the tool mentioned above?

 

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When you say mash, I am assuming that I should put the car in first with the engine off (obviously) and hit the brakes?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you got it.

 

no you dont want to use any thing through any holes no matter how beefy somthing is if you put presure like that on a small area you will create a hardened stress spot the best way to do that is to use an oxy setaline torch and heat the area around the pully bolt try not to let th bolt its self to hot then use an impact wile goin back and forth (tighten loosen) that will break it free with out damaging anything

 

I used this tool:



You wrap the chain around the pulley and then it grabs the pulley sorta like an oil filter wrench would grab a filter. I used a regular half inch breaker bar with the correct sized socket and stock a long pipe on the end of the breaker bar. The handle of the chain tool goes against the ground and it uses it's own natural leverage to counter act you turning the breaker bar.

PS
I have no idea what that tool is called

 

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yeah, that tool is awesome for most 92+ and b-series crank pulleys, but the 88-91 pulley isn't machined to accept that tool


Modified by sanimalp at 10:51 AM 8/12/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn that sucks... i used it for my y7 in my 91 Si but never knew that it didnt work for the a6...

 

Honda makes a specialty tool for the earlier engines also that has a socket for the crank bolt and a pin the goes into one of the holes in the pulley (sorry no picture). Real easy to use. Not as nice as the tool for the later ones, but it worked fine on my wagon.

 

okay so i got a better impact wrench today... that bolt came out in two seconds... however, the pulley will not come off... it is like it is stuck on there... do i need to do something else? i thought it would come off when i took the bolt out?

 

If it's a manual, you can try lifting the car up, put it in 5th gear, and have one of your friend's hold the brakes hard while you put a big breaker bar on the bolt and try to break it loose.

 

I got the bolt out... I can not get the pulley off the block though...

 

just wiggle it from side to side make sure not to lose the little key

 

The pulley isn't pressed on or anything. Try hitting it with a hammer all around the outside of the pulley. Tap on it a little on one side, bump the car a little and tap that side, etc. etc. A rubber mallet would be best, but if you're careful with how hard you hit the pulley, you can use a regular hamer. If you keep on having trouble, you can get a pulley puller, but you shouldn't need it if you go all around the pulley tapping it off. Stupid question, but you do have all the belts off, right?

 

Yeah I had all the belts off. I actually got it off about an hour ago. I went out there and yanked on it like a madman. Looked like a damned fool, but I got it off. I fell backward when it came off though... hehe